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Post by beren44 on May 10, 2017 9:55:09 GMT
I'll kick it off. I am going to need a re-watch or two, to understand a couple of things. How did Aida and the Superior get apparently unlimited capabilities just because Aida got put in a biological body? Is that all just Darkhold influence? I mean, I understand that the restrictions about killing were lifted when that happened, but there's a lot more involved. And how did Fitz know that Aida had other powers, besides teleporting? (poor Fitz, getting popped in and out everywhere, like when Aida went to rescue Mack from the oil rig. He musta been getting nauseated at that point) [ edit: I take back everything I ever said about Aida...her idea of rough sex is outta my league ]
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Post by backroadjunkie on May 10, 2017 11:29:15 GMT
First, I would like to congratulate the writers on immortalizing one of my old girlfriends on the show last night. Say what you will about Ian's acting, but Mallory Jansen took it up a notch last night. They may have had some frightening characters on AoS, but Mallory's performance was the first one to almost make me pee in my pants. Hell hath no fury, as they say... I'll kick it off. I am going to need a re-watch or two, to understand a couple of things. How did Aida and the Superior get apparently unlimited capabilities just because Aida got put in a biological body? Is that all just Darkhold influence? I mean, I understand that the restrictions about killing were lifted when that happened, but there's a lot more involved. And how did Fitz know that Aida had other powers, besides teleporting? (poor Fitz, getting popped in and out everywhere, like when Aida went to rescue Mack from the oil rig. He musta been getting nauseated at that point) [ edit: I take back everything I ever said about Aida...her idea of rough sex is outta my league ]Fitz must have programmed it all into her biological form when creating Project Looking Glass. Whoever's flying the Zephyr needs to stop whining and fly the damn plane. Coulson trying to explain recent history to May (AND Talbot) was hilarious. Yo-Yo made dum-dum move. What is it with women in love? She wants to save Mack and gets herself trapped in the framework, Ophelia wants to destroy the world and make it suffer, and Jemma needs to fix another broken Fitz. And finally, with Robbie back, the circle to this season is complete. It started with the Darkhold, it's going to end with the Darkhold. This has got to be their best season yet. I can't see how ABC doesn't renew it.
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Post by terminator22 on May 10, 2017 12:14:01 GMT
Yo-Yo made dum-dum move. What is it with women in love? She wants to save Mack and gets herself trapped in the framework, Ophelia wants to destroy the world and make it suffer, and Jemma needs to fix another broken Fitz. To be fair, YoYo only did that because Daisy was an idiot. Daisy should have forced Mack into that portal, just like Radcliffe forced Fitz into it. Sure Mack would have been angry for a while, but he would be alive and in the fight! The Superior continues to be a pathetic villain. The only difference is he has many copies of himself. Ophelia actually scared me last night. I wonder how many more powers she has? I'm glad Fitz remained loyal to Jemma. Now they can spend the rest of the show patching things up. I was laughing at May when she couldn't believe no one realized she had been replaced by an LMD. Why would anyone realize it? May is ALWAYS acting like a robot. A stone cold bitch robot!
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Post by haxemon on May 10, 2017 17:51:45 GMT
I don't think anyone could have forced Mack into the portal. This is Mack, not Fitz.
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Post by koos on May 10, 2017 19:43:45 GMT
First, I would like to congratulate the writers on immortalizing one of my old girlfriends on the show last night. Say what you will about Ian's acting, but Mallory Jansen took it up a notch last night. They may have had some frightening characters on AoS, but Mallory's performance was the first one to almost make me pee in my pants. Hell hath no fury, as they say... I'll kick it off. I am going to need a re-watch or two, to understand a couple of things. How did Aida and the Superior get apparently unlimited capabilities just because Aida got put in a biological body? Is that all just Darkhold influence? I mean, I understand that the restrictions about killing were lifted when that happened, but there's a lot more involved. And how did Fitz know that Aida had other powers, besides teleporting? ( Fitz must have programmed it all into her biological form when creating Project Looking Glass. Yeah, Of course he knew. He built that device and has all inhumans they captured tested. For what reason?: to give it to Ophelia.
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Post by haxemon on May 10, 2017 21:06:07 GMT
It's funny that Ophelia sort of turned out to be like a parody of video game nerds (a label I wear myself). She wanted a "real body" but also made damn sure it was better than any other real body. Not just the original model that Radcliff gave her (attractive woman and all that) but also with not just one Inhuman power but at least 3. And some pretty badass ones to boot.
Similar to how people like me want to put themselves in a sports game or FPS game but look for cheat codes to make sure my player is guaranteed MVP.
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Post by beren44 on May 10, 2017 22:33:21 GMT
I don't think anyone could have forced Mack into the portal. This is Mack, not Fitz. Nah, Daisy could have quaked him easily. He's only a small tank, he's not inhuman. She just made a bone-headed decision. And to semi-answer one of my own questions in the OP, I did a re-watch already, and didn't understand what Fitz said to May the first time I saw it. Sometimes its hard for me to understand the accents. When he is in the container pod, near the end, he shouts to May (about Aida's powers) that only she (May) and him had seen the results of the tests they ran on the inhumans (in the Framework). Waiting for more explanation about that, now.
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Post by TommyWizard on May 10, 2017 23:11:33 GMT
I don't think anyone could have forced Mack into the portal. This is Mack, not Fitz. Nah, Daisy could have quaked him easily. He's only a small tank, he's not inhuman. She just made a bone-headed decision. And to semi-answer one of my own questions in the OP, I did a re-watch already, and didn't understand what Fitz said to May the first time I saw it. Sometimes its hard for me to understand the accents. When he is in the container pod, near the end, he shouts to May (about Aida's powers) that only she (May) and him had seen the results of the tests they ran on the inhumans (in the Framework). Waiting for more explanation about that, now. I think that they're the only ones who knows what are her powers and how many. I guess she has a LOT, Fitz reaction when the containement module gived me shivers, like she reached MCU movies threat or even worse. Mallory killed it so!! I won't forget this anytime soon, it was ASTONISHING, she was legit born new at first and she seemed nice but when Fitz said the bad word, all hell break loose, she was scary as sh*t but AWESOMELY SCARY!!! And her powers WHAOO, i want to see more of these!! What's the Superior said was interesting I do wonder, even though Ophelia make her new body with all the powers of tested Inhumans, how can we know for sure that the Darkhold turned her into an Inhuman? Considering how powerful the Darkhold is, he could make a human with powers (so it would a really powerful Metahuman) how it turned her into something else. Or maybe it was just refering to the Kree origin of Inhumans or it was just another hint of cosmics beings (Dormammu, Celestial, etc). They could so much with this book but i'm afraid with only one episode left, the threat will not be impossible to handle... Well at least i'm going to see this terrific and incredible Ophelia again
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Post by DoTheMath on May 10, 2017 23:42:20 GMT
Nah, Daisy could have quaked him easily. He's only a small tank, he's not inhuman. She just made a bone-headed decision. And to semi-answer one of my own questions in the OP, I did a re-watch already, and didn't understand what Fitz said to May the first time I saw it. Sometimes its hard for me to understand the accents. When he is in the container pod, near the end, he shouts to May (about Aida's powers) that only she (May) and him had seen the results of the tests they ran on the inhumans (in the Framework). Waiting for more explanation about that, now. I think that they're the only ones who knows what are her powers and how many. I guess she has a LOT, Fitz reaction when the containement module gived me shivers, like she reached MCU movies threat or even worse. Mallory killed it so!! I won't forget this anytime soon, it was ASTONISHING, she was legit born new at first and she seemed nice but when Fitz said the bad word, all hell break loose, she was scary as sh*t but AWESOMELY SCARY!!! And her powers WHAOO, i want to see more of these!! What's the Superior said was interesting I do wonder, even though Ophelia make her new body with all the powers of tested Inhumans, how can we know for sure that the Darkhold turned her into an Inhuman? Considering how powerful the Darkhold is, he could make a human with powers (so it would a really powerful Metahuman) how it turned her into something else. Or maybe it was just refering to the Kree origin of Inhumans or it was just another hint of cosmics beings (Dormammu, Celestial, etc). They could so much with this book but i'm afraid with only one episode left, the threat will not be impossible to handle... Well at least i'm going to see this terrific and incredible Ophelia again Understatement! Personally, I was amazed. Her talents have talents. You're so right. There's SO much they could do. Hopefully, they'll take Mallory's popularity in the role into consideration and somehow carry her over as the Big bad of S5 with a cosmic/other world/other dimension storyline that will join the MCUs cosmic themes that are upcoming.
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Post by TommyWizard on May 11, 2017 0:09:13 GMT
You're so right. There's SO much they could do. Hopefully, they'll take Mallory's popularity in the role into consideration and somehow carry her over as the Big bad of S5 with a cosmic/other world/other dimension storyline that will join the MCUs cosmic themes that are upcoming. THIS It would so awesome if she lived after S4 finale and kept the Darkhold with her but i guess i'm dreaming. It makes even more sense that Robbie came back, she's Omega level threat with her powers and Darkhold combined, a Spirit of Vengeance will be really helpful !
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Post by TommyWizard on May 11, 2017 0:38:30 GMT
I just read the wiki about the Ghost Rider and i have even more question about Robbie in AoS. In the comics, all Ghost Rider are Spirit of Vengeance, created by gods to purge the evil, the supernatural and the unholy and i quote the wiki
EXCEPT Johnny Blaze the most famous of the Ghost Rider, he's possessed by a powerful Demon named Zarathros.
Robbie is also an exception (still in comics) he's possessed by the spirit by his satanic killer uncle : Eli Morrow He has some similar powers of the usual Ghost Rider except the penance stare BUT he can teleport and the others don't.
I do wonder what kind of Ghost Rider is Robbit in AoS, obviously it is not like the comics so either he's a "true" Ghost Rider (Spirit of Vengeance) or it's Zarathros.
Either way they're both insanely strong entities so it's a really strong card for the team.
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Post by backroadjunkie on May 11, 2017 0:52:46 GMT
Or maybe it was just refering to the Kree origin of Inhumans or it was just another hint of cosmics beings (Dormammu, Celestial, etc). They could so much with this book but i'm afraid with only one episode left, the threat will not be impossible to handle... You're so right. There's SO much they could do. Hopefully, they'll take Mallory's popularity in the role into consideration and somehow carry her over as the Big bad of S5 with a cosmic/other world/other dimension storyline that will join the MCUs cosmic themes that are upcoming. Seriously? She went effing insane. She can't handle human emotions. Fitz is toast if Ophelia can't be stopped. Thankfully, Robbie is back to bring balance to the force. Both Ophelia and the Russian read the Darkhold, and need to die or imprisoned in another dimension like all the others who've read the book. On another track, Vijay has yet to show up. I assume that's where Ophelia got the "can't be killed" aspect of her charming side...
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Post by DoTheMath on May 11, 2017 1:13:21 GMT
You're so right. There's SO much they could do. Hopefully, they'll take Mallory's popularity in the role into consideration and somehow carry her over as the Big bad of S5 with a cosmic/other world/other dimension storyline that will join the MCUs cosmic themes that are upcoming. Seriously? She went effing insane. She can't handle human emotions. Fitz is toast if Ophelia can't be stopped. Thankfully, Robbie is back to bring balance to the force. Both Ophelia and the Russian read the Darkhold, and need to die or imprisoned in another dimension like all the others who've read the book. On another track, Vijay has yet to show up. I assume that's where Ophelia got the "can't be killed" aspect of her charming side... Yep. Totally serious. Only 2 eps of super powered Ophelia is too few. She could return as the S5, "unbeatable" Super Powered Big Bad with the ability to hide in a cosmic nether realm while playing puppet master to someone/thing else and FitzSimmons will need to develop tech to track her down so the team can kill her. Vijay could be the one to bring balance to the Force....... but Coulson should give Robbie one of those watches they gave Yo-Yo....... just in case.
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Post by beren44 on May 11, 2017 1:19:55 GMT
You're so right. There's SO much they could do. Hopefully, they'll take Mallory's popularity in the role into consideration and somehow carry her over as the Big bad of S5 with a cosmic/other world/other dimension storyline that will join the MCUs cosmic themes that are upcoming. Seriously? She went effing insane. She can't handle human emotions. Fitz is toast if Ophelia can't be stopped. Thankfully, Robbie is back to bring balance to the force. Both Ophelia and the Russian read the Darkhold, and need to die or imprisoned in another dimension like all the others who've read the book. On another track, Vijay has yet to show up. I assume that's where Ophelia got the "can't be killed" aspect of her charming side... let's not forget, the exploding guy who took out Nadeer...all they did was vacuum up his dust into some container...why couldn't he reconstitute himself inside there and go boom again? That was a bit lame, and dropped a little too quickly for my taste. Not one of the show's brighter moments.
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Post by Hari Seldon on May 11, 2017 1:23:20 GMT
Vijay could be the one to bring balance to the Force....... Bad idea. Don't forget, Anakin's method of "bringing balance to the Force" was killing everyone except Obi Wan, Yoda, the Emperor, and himself. Two Jedi + two Sith = balance. Who would have to die in the show to balance things?
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