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Post by Jemma Simmons on Jan 16, 2022 23:06:46 GMT
After seeing some rather negative reviews, I wasn't sure how I'd like this one, but it was a fun watch! I will say Angelina Joli was criminally underused.
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Post by haxemon on Jan 17, 2022 15:24:51 GMT
After seeing some rather negative reviews, I wasn't sure how I'd like this one, but it was a fun watch! I will say Angelina Joli was criminally underused. Glad you enjoyed it. I think most actors/characters were crimanally underused actually, and that's the biggest flaw with this one. It could have benefited from being a D+ series maybe. Though apparently they wanted the cinematic experience for the larger than life characters (which was worth it for sure). In a perfect world, they could have dropped a few lead-in episodes on D+ to introduce the characters and tell some of the backstory and then had the film be the grand finale - but of course that doesn't work for the broader audiences.
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Post by TommyWizard on Jan 18, 2022 2:18:37 GMT
I'm not sure it would have worked, they setup some characters in the shows but I'm pretty sure most of them already existed.
They're kinda doing something similar that what the movies formula is doing for years: the accessibility and easy to pick up.
So far they only did a first reference to the shows and it's when Strange talk about Westview (or at least the only one I can think off) in the Dr Strange 2 Multiverse trailer
Something tells me when Sam Wilson will do his first movie debut as the new Cap, they will do it as smoooothly as possible not to lose people that might haven't watched the Falcon / Winter Soldier show.
They're very careful with this
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Post by TommyWizard on Jan 18, 2022 2:22:02 GMT
Also for some who want to tell me about Val, the movie came out 1 year late and was actually to be released before the D+ shows so we actually got her first with the shows I think? To be honest it's perfect, it would have been way more awkward in the Black Widow post credit scene.
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Post by DoTheMath on Jan 23, 2022 1:27:40 GMT
Watched it today. It was a good movie but not necessarilly a good(definitely not great) MARVEL movie. I've thought about it and I think my reaction is because the pacing was different. Didn't follow the normal Marvel mix of serious/action/humor so it was difficult to stay fully engaged (which is weird because I liked the story and the walks through history). The visuals were stunning and the soundtrack was well chosen. Any movie that starts with one of my favorite song intros deserves at least some credit....... Second watch will tell the tale. If I enjoy it on subsequent viewings, then I'm willing to sit down to a plate of crow. Until then................. Mid credit scene gives me hope the next E movie will be a fun watch (maybe a kind of Loki vibe?). Need some help from the comic book afficianados: End credit scene: who are we looking forward to, here? My guess is Blade . If I'm wrong about that, then I need some eddycashun on that character....... (please and thank you)
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Post by Jemma Simmons on Jan 23, 2022 1:58:06 GMT
Watched it today. It was a good movie but not necessarilly a good(definitely not great) MARVEL movie. I've thought about it and I think my reaction is because the pacing was different. Didn't follow the normal Marvel mix of serious/action/humor so it was difficult to stay fully engaged (which is weird because I liked the story and the walks through history). The visuals were stunning and the soundtrack was well chosen. Any movie that starts with one of my favorite song intros deserves at least some credit....... Second watch will tell the tale. If I enjoy it on subsequent viewings, then I'm willing to sit down to a plate of crow. Until then................. Mid credit scene gives me hope the next E movie will be a fun watch (maybe a kind of Loki vibe?). Need some help from the comic book afficianados: End credit scene: who are we looking forward to, here? My guess is Blade . If I'm wrong about that, then I need some eddycashun on that character....... (please and thank you) I also thought the pacing was different with this one. I think a lot of that might have had to do with how much plot exposition/worldbuilding/ character introductions needed to happen. That does tend to slow things down a bit. I also liked seeing the Eternals throughout various points in time! I also thought it was clever how used looking at those different points in time when the gang was all together to build up that bond they had with Ajak even though she was already dead. I'm also pretty sure that was Blade's voice in the post-credits scene. It sounded a lot like the actor who was cast in the role! I'm not as familiar with those comics, but I think they may have teamed up briefly at some point.
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Post by haxemon on Jan 23, 2022 15:48:29 GMT
Your spoiler guesses are correct on the mystery voice. Could easily be setting up Midnight Sons - basically a team that takes on paranormal threats with characters like Blade, Moon Knight, Ghost Rider and the like
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Post by DoTheMath on Jan 23, 2022 17:14:22 GMT
Your spoiler guesses are correct on the mystery voice. Could easily be setting up Midnight Sons - basically a team that takes on paranormal threats with characters like Blade, Moon Knight, Ghost Rider and the like Gracias.
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Post by FreeKresge on Jan 24, 2022 6:06:51 GMT
I saw Eternals last November. I agree that the critics were wrong. Eternals is not... I repeat NOT the worst MCU film. In fact, it was not the second-worst MCU film. However, I think that I better stop there. In general, my favorite MCU films fit at least one of two categories. One category includes films that have a generally light tone (e.g., Thor: Ragnarok and Guardians of the Galaxy). The other includes films that focus on a group of characters and the dynamics between them (e.g., The Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy). As one might surmise, Guardians of the Galaxy is my favorite MCU film. Eternals had the potential to fit into the second category. However, The Avengers had characters who were already developed in previous films, often in films that focused on the specific character. Guardians of the Galaxy had only five main characters in the team, so there was time to develop them in the film. Eternals had ten characters in the team that we have never seen before plus a civilian love interest, a sidekick, and a villain or two. There was not enough time to develop all these characters. I think that it would have been better if there were only five Eternals or if the film started with ten Eternals only for five to be killed off in an opening battle. Like a lot of people, I noticed that the film had a character played by Richard Madden and a character played by Kit Harington in a love triangle with a character whose name sounds like "SIR-see." This suggests a different franchise going on a very different path. This is not labeled a spoiler thread, so I will put the rest of my comments in spoiler tags. As I understand it, Celestials saw the presence of predators on planets as a threat to sentient life, which would delay the hatching of a new Celestial. To combat this problem, Celestials created Deviants to control predators. However, Deviants started killing sentient life necessary to nourish the fetal Celestial. Rather than recognizing that the creation of Deviants was a mistake, the Celestials instead created Eternals to control Deviants. Now that this set of Eternals decided to protect the sentient life from the baby Celestial, I guess that something will have to be created to control Eternals. I had an employer who had that kind of mentality when combatting problems. That employer went out of business a few years ago.
Marvel has a dilemma. They cannot introduce new superheroes who have been around for a long time without explaining why those superheroes were not seen in the fight against Thanos. As far as the Eternals are concerned, we are told that it is because they were told to lay low unless Deviants are involved. It is true that Deviants threaten human life, but they would not wipe out half the population. Thanos was a much bigger threat to the fetal Celestials. Furthermore, there are other things that have the potential to greatly reduce sentient populations (such as nuclear war) that might require intervention if the Celestial is to hatch.
I guess that this film confirms that Thanos was the universe's greatest hero when he delayed the destruction of countless inhabited worlds by reducing their populations. In fact, he may have wiped out half the fetal Celestials, thus saving those planets even when they build their populations to pre-snap levels. The universe's greatest villains are the Avengers who restored the populations of the planets, presumably including their fetal Celestials, ensuring their doom.
I understand the idea of whether to sacrifice the fetal Celestial to save the life of the earth is an abortion metaphor. However, even in the United States, only the most extreme element of the anti-abortion movement opposes abortion when the mother's life is threatened. This was not a courageous stand.
For some reason, a whole lot of people were excited to have a sex scene in a MCU film. I do not care. MCU films are not about romance. Most of the time, it felt like a love interest was included only to reassure us that the hero is heterosexual.
While the film did not get great reviews, some of the commentary appreciated the diversity of the cast. For example, this film contained the MCU's first Asian female superhero, unless you count Melinda May. If you do not count her because she does not have superpowers, there is half of Daisy Johnson. Eternals also had the first Latina superhero, unless you count Elena Rodriguez. The film also had the first gay superhero, unless you count Joey Gutierrez.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Jan 24, 2022 15:42:48 GMT
Like a lot of people, I noticed that the film had a character played by Richard Madden and a character played by Kit Harington in a love triangle with a character whose name sounds like "SIR-see." This suggests a different franchise going on a very different path. While the film did not get great reviews, some of the commentary appreciated the diversity of the cast. For example, this film contained the MCU's first Asian female superhero, unless you count Melinda May. If you do not count her because she does not have superpowers, there is half of Daisy Johnson. Eternals also had the first Latina superhero, unless you count Elena Rodriguez. The film also had the first gay superhero, unless you count Joey Gutierrez. Basically, Cersei and Ikarus were in love for centuries until Ikarus ghosted her. After a few decades she moved on. To me it seemed like every single one of the Eternals was in love with Ikarus, regardless of gender. All of the Eternals have names that are similar to characters in Greek mythology.
As for the diversity, Shang-Chi is being called the first Asian superhero, though Wong was around before him (I'm going to stick to movies here). Of course they also called Black Panther the first black superhero even though War Machine was already around, and Hulk was the first superhero of color.
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Post by TommyWizard on Jan 24, 2022 17:34:25 GMT
If you just count comics movies, Wesley Snipes in Blade was first.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Jan 24, 2022 19:48:19 GMT
If you just count comics movies, Wesley Snipes in Blade was first. And if you count television, Ant Man was first:
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Post by Jemma Simmons on Jan 24, 2022 23:20:49 GMT
If you just count comics movies, Wesley Snipes in Blade was first. And if you count television, Ant Man was first: Hahaha! SNL has always done a great job poking fun at the superhero genre!
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Post by Jemma Simmons on Jan 24, 2022 23:25:16 GMT
It's interesting everyone seems to feel the same way about the pacing and it being due to the sheer number of brand new characters being introduced. From what I've seen, early drafts of the script had 12 Eternals introduced. It was probably a good idea to bring that down to 10, just from a pacing standpoint. linkety link
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Post by TommyWizard on Jan 25, 2022 2:32:29 GMT
Btw they seems strong as a team but theres not a lot of them that are powerhouse themselves?
Ikaris was but we all know how he ended... Same with Gilgamesh I guess if you count ALL eternals Starfox could potentially be the strongest tho thats purely hypothetical.
So in the main team i guess its probably Sersei? Or Phastos
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