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Post by DoTheMath on Aug 21, 2019 0:36:25 GMT
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Post by ayanami on Aug 21, 2019 9:05:46 GMT
Ugh! Seriously, people?! Disney, stop being such a bunch of grreedy bastards! Sony, please don't mix Tom Holland's amazing Spider-Man in with your venom crap! He's too important for the MCU!
Why can't we all just get along?
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Post by DoTheMath on Aug 22, 2019 0:20:30 GMT
Ugh! Seriously, people?! Disney, stop being such a bunch of grreedy bastards! Sony, please don't mix Tom Holland's amazing Spider-Man in with your venom crap! He's too important for the MCU! Why can't we all just get along?$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ I think Disney is justified in their actions. Only 5%? MCU deserves to get paid for making Spidey the money maker that he now is. Sony has already proven they can't do what MCU does, but they don't want to share with the company that just made them a billion dollars. I think Snny greed is what F'd it all up as Disney was in the right to ask for better compensation. I feel sorry for Tom (and the other actors), though. Stuck between a contract and a sh!tty movie company........ |
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Post by ayanami on Aug 22, 2019 3:03:40 GMT
Ugh! Seriously, people?! Disney, stop being such a bunch of grreedy bastards! Sony, please don't mix Tom Holland's amazing Spider-Man in with your venom crap! He's too important for the MCU! Why can't we all just get along?$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ I think Disney is justified in their actions. Only 5%? MCU deserves to get paid for making Spidey the money maker that he now is. Sony has already proven they can't do what MCU does, but they don't want to share with the company that just made them a billion dollars. I think Snny greed is what F'd it all up as Disney was in the right to ask for better compensation. I feel sorry for Tom (and the other actors), though. Stuck between a contract and a sh!tty movie company........ I definitely agree that Disney deserves much more than 5% from the deal, but to go go from 5 to 50 is quite the increase, especially when they already get all the merchandise money. I just hope they can work this out out after all, I'm sure they realise how much this break would hurt everyone involved. |
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Post by Jemma Simmons on Aug 23, 2019 10:09:42 GMT
This is really disappointing.
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Post by aquaangel on Aug 23, 2019 10:40:43 GMT
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ I think Disney is justified in their actions. Only 5%? MCU deserves to get paid for making Spidey the money maker that he now is. Sony has already proven they can't do what MCU does, but they don't want to share with the company that just made them a billion dollars. I think Snny greed is what F'd it all up as Disney was in the right to ask for better compensation. I feel sorry for Tom (and the other actors), though. Stuck between a contract and a sh!tty movie company........ I definitely agree that Disney deserves much more than 5% from the deal, but to go go from 5 to 50 is quite the increase, especially when they already get all the merchandise money. I just hope they can work this out out after all, I'm sure they realise how much this break would hurt everyone involved. One video I watched yesterday about the matter said the initial reports of the fifty percent ask was inaccurate. According to another source the ask was closer to thirty percent. The thing was supposedly Kevin Feige's boss told Sony that Feige was too busy with many Marvel projects to only get as little as he was getting out of the deal. It didn't sound to me like Feige requested for his boss to speak on his behalf, but he did it anyway. Who knows what the real story is? We will probably never know. |
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Post by haxemon on Aug 23, 2019 12:11:20 GMT
I feel confident they'll work something out. It wouldn't be impossible for a company to make a bad decision based on greed and being tone-deaf with the fans/consumers, but I feel like Disney will help Sony realize that they'd each make more money working together than apart. Just make the Sony execs watch TASM2 in Clockwork Orange fashion and that should convince them.
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Post by ayanami on Aug 23, 2019 18:42:29 GMT
I feel confident they'll work something out. It wouldn't be impossible for a company to make a bad decision based on greed and being tone-deaf with the fans/consumers, but I feel like Disney will help Sony realize that they'd each make more money working together than apart. Just make the Sony execs watch TASM2 in Clockwork Orange fashion and that should convince them. To be fair, though, Sony did make Into the Spider-Verse without any help from Disney and that might just be the best Spider-Man movie ever made, alongside Spider-Man 2. So they can - theoretically - do it. |
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Post by DoTheMath on Aug 24, 2019 13:35:52 GMT
I feel confident they'll work something out. It wouldn't be impossible for a company to make a bad decision based on greed and being tone-deaf with the fans/consumers, but I feel like Disney will help Sony realize that they'd each make more money working together than apart. Just make the Sony execs watch TASM2 in Clockwork Orange fashion and that should convince them. To be fair, though, Sony did make Into the Spider-Verse without any help from Disney and that might just be the best Spider-Man movie ever made, alongside Spider-Man 2. So they can - theoretically - do it. The bad thing about it is that Spidey has been rebooted twice and it's starting to feel like Spidey is getting lost in the Fear Dimension of the Multi-verse......................... The MCU Spidey is, by far, the best; so, I hope they are able to keep going along those lines and keep Spidey consistent moving forward. |
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Post by haxemon on Aug 25, 2019 14:43:32 GMT
Yes ITSV was very good. But that's a pure Spider-Man story and slightly different from making a live-action film. A reboot would be a terrible idea IMO and taking the current character and "detaching" him/them from the MCU is almost as bad.
I'd almost want them to drag him into another dimension or something.
Still hoping they sort it out.
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Post by ayanami on Aug 27, 2019 12:22:54 GMT
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Post by haxemon on Aug 27, 2019 12:30:08 GMT
I've almost made peace with the idea already. As long as Sony comes up with a decent path forward that doesn't include an elephant sitting just off camera all movie. At the very least maybe they can agree for some elements of SM3 to tie things off. Peter getting pulled into the Venom universe or something.
That stated, it really would be in everyone's best interest to keep some loose ties alive. Let Sony reference the Avengers and wider MCU at the level the Netflix show do so there's some plausibility to them all existing in the same reality. Then if they want to negotiate Spidey being in the next big MCU climax they can.
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Post by ayanami on Aug 27, 2019 19:01:46 GMT
I've almost made peace with the idea already. As long as Sony comes up with a decent path forward that doesn't include an elephant sitting just off camera all movie. At the very least maybe they can agree for some elements of SM3 to tie things off. Peter getting pulled into the Venom universe or something. That stated, it really would be in everyone's best interest to keep some loose ties alive. Let Sony reference the Avengers and wider MCU at the level the Netflix show do so there's some plausibility to them all existing in the same reality. Then if they want to negotiate Spidey being in the next big MCU climax they can. Yeah, can't wait for The Snap now just being The Event (though, to be fair, it wasn't much more in FFH anyway) and Tony Stark being only referred to as the guy in the metal suit. Fun times!  |
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Post by haxemon on Aug 28, 2019 14:14:08 GMT
I've almost made peace with the idea already. As long as Sony comes up with a decent path forward that doesn't include an elephant sitting just off camera all movie. At the very least maybe they can agree for some elements of SM3 to tie things off. Peter getting pulled into the Venom universe or something. That stated, it really would be in everyone's best interest to keep some loose ties alive. Let Sony reference the Avengers and wider MCU at the level the Netflix show do so there's some plausibility to them all existing in the same reality. Then if they want to negotiate Spidey being in the next big MCU climax they can. Yeah, can't wait for The Snap now just being The Event (though, to be fair, it wasn't much more in FFH anyway) and Tony Stark being only referred to as the guy in the metal suit. Fun times! Haha, yeah well hopefully they can do a little better than the Netflix model (though I guess we still had "the guy with the hammer [who] fell from the sky" in IM3). Really it would help the MCU if Peter's NYC still had murals of "fallen" Avengers and if Peter had one moment in the film where he laments "Mr Stark" etc. They can be a bit more direct if they want to. Dammit - now I want to go collect the real Infinity Stones just so I remake our universe into one where Marvel never had to sell off any movie rights at all and the MCU somehow still comes to be without these restrictions! Though that would entail Marvel still getting Blade and X-Men made along with the first Spider-Man films. Heck even Fantastic Four played it's part in getting the public ready for the MCU. Maybe just the time stone (or some help from FitzSimmons) to go back and tell Stan Lee to set firm limits on the rights reverting back to Marvel by 2008 or something. |
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Post by haxemon on Aug 28, 2019 17:38:07 GMT
So now current rumors are that there's a "new deal" in the works. So Spider-Man would still be in the MCU and Sony films etc. So could be the same terms from a fan's point of view (i.e. just a different rev split) or could be some slight changes to the "rules". But any form of agreement is good news.
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