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Post by koos on Nov 16, 2017 1:55:31 GMT
Just a few minutes away from seeing the premier in our country 😎 I'm jealous.......... Just saw it. I'll give a better description of a review later on (it's 3 am here). But in short: I loved it. Imo the movie delivered what it should deliver. Oh, and Steve Rogers is an assistent carpenter 😆
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Post by Hari Seldon on Nov 16, 2017 3:04:42 GMT
I'm jealous.......... Just saw it. I'll give a better description of a review later on (it's 3 am here). But in short: I loved it. Imo the movie delivered what it should deliver. Oh, and Steve Rogers is an assistent carpenter 😆 Rogers or Trevor? Steve Trevor is WW's boy toy, but I'm sure DC would have to pay a lot of money to use Cap's real name.
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Post by koos on Nov 16, 2017 8:22:30 GMT
Just saw it. I'll give a better description of a review later on (it's 3 am here). But in short: I loved it. Imo the movie delivered what it should deliver. Oh, and Steve Rogers is an assistent carpenter 😆 Rogers or Trevor? Steve Trevor is WW's boy toy, but I'm sure DC would have to pay a lot of money to use Cap's real name. The name appeared in the credits. Among thousands. Nothing special. Just happen to see it. Thought it was funny.
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Post by DoTheMath on Nov 17, 2017 1:27:47 GMT
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Post by Hari Seldon on Nov 17, 2017 3:29:40 GMT
Hope never dies, she just vanishes as the Framework is shutting down.
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Post by haxemon on Nov 17, 2017 14:14:29 GMT
Or sometimes she stabs herself in the throat to motivate someone to do what is necessary....
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Post by nillindeiel on Nov 20, 2017 14:42:10 GMT
Saw the movie on Saturday. Overall, it's better than I thought it was going to be (and I do think going in with lower expectations actually helped). It's not a great movie, it's okay/it's not terrible. Though I do find it kind of sad that we have this team up of DC's A-list characters and a lot of the reactions are along the lines of "Well, it's not terrible". I agree with what some people have said and that things like the good character interactions, and some of the humor are probably Joss's doing. Sorry to Snyder, but he's never really been one to have really good character interactions. Going to go ahead and put the rest in spoiler tags, I don't know how much is actually going to be spoilers, but I figure better safe than sorry so read further at your own risk if you haven't seen the movie yet.
I did find Steppenwolf to be an incredibly boring villain, however (which kind of makes me laugh a bit for all that the hardcore DC fans constantly rail on the MCU for having lackluster villians (which I don't always agree with) - and here we have a boring villain with such weak/cliche motivation) - and him being a noticeably CGI character on top of that didn't help. He didn't feel like a part of the world.
There were other CGI/Special effects issues to. There were moments that are clearly green screen (one of the early scenes between Bruce and Arthur come to immediate mind) and then there's the digital issue with Superman (more below)
Also, the "mother" metaphors and what not just feel really over done in the DCEU. You had all the mother issues in BvS, it felt like there was a lot going on with mothers here (it gets brought up that Arthur/Aquaman has issues with his mother, there's the stuff going on with Martha, there's Steppenwolf and his pleas to his "mother" that he's constantly making, the fact that what he seeks are called "motherboxes" (and yes, I know that comes from the comics). Like my sister said as we were talking during the credits after it was over, could they hit us over the head with a hammer any more?
I actually really did like Superman in this... yes, he smiled at times during the final battle. So what, dude was happy to be alive again! I was okay with that. But the crime, oh gosh, the ridiculous crime of the digital editing they had to do on Henry's face. Why Paramount, with how skilled makeup artists are at creating false mustache's and beards and hair pieces, why oh WHY would you not let Henry shave his mustache?!?!?!? I knew going into this what they had done (digitally removing the mustache and, therefore, having to 'reconstruct' Henry's upper lip)... but even my mom (who had no idea what they did and I didn't tell her before hand (because I wanted to ask afterward if she'd felt anything wasn't right about him), noticed that something was off about his face in several of his scenes (the most egregious being the opening scene with him, then there's some closeups later on that also had it noticeable). So big great fact BOO to Paramount for restricting Henry and resulting in a Superman that has a bit of Uncanny Valley going on.
As I expected, I loved Aquaman and Wonder Woman and Flash. Flash was a nice breath of youthful innocence and exuberance to this "oh so serious" DCEU. I continue to look forward to the Aquaman solo film as well.
I'm still good with Affleck and Batman, I would like him to stay, I would like to see a solo Batman film from him (as well as to see what he could do with the character without Snyder involved - I have issues with Snyder, can you tell?).
Cyborg was also a pleasant surprise. The trailers were annoying because it always felt like he was an "Oh yeah, there's this (token black) guy too". Thankfully, though, that's not what he was in the film, he was a lot more involved, wasn't just a periphery character, and had some character growth (in fact, a lot of the characters had growth, which was nice).
So, again, all in all, it was an okay movie, was happy that I went and saw it. (but Thor: Ragnarok definitely wins the battle of the this year's fall CBM movies)
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Post by koos on Nov 21, 2017 19:04:21 GMT
My review then. Needed some time to think about it. And watched it twice. Non-spoilory review: it's a fun movie. Good team building and nice characterizations. Spoilory review Pros: - good team build up - good characterization for a six character-based action movie within two hours - tight (bvS had some stuff in it that made no sense to the story at all and was simply unnecessary. That, luckily, was not the case here. - lots of humor. - best comic scene I have ever watched in any comic movie ever made. Be warned. Only read this when you have seen the movie. You simply can't be spoiled by this: Superman watching the Flash I consider it on par (thought this was even better) with Cap's scene in the evelator telling the guys that they still can leave. - all character were really good. I love Wonder woman and thought she was still my fav in this movie. But Superman was really good as well. Roboguy was very good as well. The flash have various diffent opinions about him from being to silly to being the stand out of the show. Characters were also in character. Which is a delight these days. - it makes you wanna see more -great fight scene. Especially with Superman and Batman's style of fighting. - the movie has one style and not two different styles clued together with Joss having put in his efforts. - two good credits end scenes. Cons: - two hours (retarded decision) short - Enemy is considered weak. Though that didn't bother me at all. - Superman's mustache. I didn't know about this at all, but still noticed something was wrong. - No mention of Supergirl (kind of hoped for it considering the teasers) - too rushed. There was no time for the characters to breath. - more characterization was not necessary but welcome. It would have made the movie significantly better. But the stupid decision to make it 2 hours at a max made that impossible. - CEO Kevin Tsujihara - DC comics leadership. That are scared like headless chickens. It's a miracle that a justice league movie has even been made. Guess they were forced by Marvel studios who actually do have vision. - No Batman in the arrow tv-series because people might get confused with the Batman on the big screen. A miracle that Superman even could show up in Supergirl.
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Post by haxemon on Nov 24, 2017 14:20:56 GMT
Are we still using spoiler tags at this point? I will for anything truly spoiler-ish. Saw it last night. Solid 6.5 out of 10. Better than MoS, BvS and SS but far short of WW for me. I went in with very intentional low expectations and I had a decent time. If I had gone in with my usual MCU level of anticipation I might have flipped some tables on my way out. It's just not very good. It's not awful either, no real cringe-worthy moments or anything. But I found the villain bland and almost silly and I'm not really a fan of the entire premise for this film (not the Justice League bit, but what brings them together). I liked Aquaman and Flash but thought Cyborg was poorly done. Well, "poorly" is too strong, maybe just "under done" in some ways. Totally worth seeing and I wouldn't have skipped it. And I am still optimistic about whatever DC puts out next. I wouldn't call it a huge step back or anything but it could have been a lot better without having to change the whole film. Some more spoiler-y comments for those that have seen it or are aren't trying to avoid spoilers. No "who did it" spoilers below though: I didn't love how Superman sort of shakes off his death with minimal trouble. After all the consternation about should they or shouldn't they it seemed to fall flat after a few minutes. Though if they touch on it later (similar maybe to Tony's PTSD from NY?) then that could change my mind.
I really don't like the storyline about mother boxes etc. I've seen it a few times in animated films from DC and I'm just not a fan. A bit too "out there" for me I guess. And Steppenwolf as a villain was boring to me. As an initial boss that leads to another (in the same film) I would have been okay but I never really saw him as a huge threat. And couldn't stop giggling internally at his name. Next film maybe MeatLoaf will be the villain? And those fear vampires? Just running around Gotham and Metropolis somehow?
The post credit scenes were good. One was a great fun one that can feed fan debates and the other was a good teaser for future films/characters.
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Nov 26, 2017 8:04:41 GMT
My mom randomly asked me if I wanted to go to a 10:20pm showing earlier. If she hadn't asked me that, I most likely wouldn't have bothered to see it.
In short, it wasn't the best movie but also wasn't a bad movie. It was mediocre.
Some parts went too fast. Some parts went too slow. I did laugh at a few jokes. I cringed in others.
It felt like 75% of the movie was build up to the final battle which means it felt like the story stagnated until it was time to move forward.
I had to big problems: 1) I wasn't able to 'lose myself' in the movie. The best movies are always the ones you can live in at the moment.
2) Toward the end I realized this was a movie where a billionaire playboy philanthropist leads a team of people with special abilities against a villain that wants to destroy/take over the world with boxes (a box) of pure energy.
I swear I've seen that movie before....
Anyway, what I liked: 1) The characters were fun and I enjoyed their interaction. I especially liked this Alfred and the Flash.
2) I didn't hate Batman and I really thought I would.
3) No Jesse Eisenbergian Lex Luthor.
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Post by Black Widow on Nov 28, 2017 20:42:50 GMT
I saw this movie when I was out of town for Thanksgiving. TBH, Wonder Woman and Aquaman had all the best parts and lines.
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Post by nillindeiel on Nov 28, 2017 21:21:00 GMT
3) No Jesse Eisenbergian Lex Luthor. Technically there was... if you stayed for the post credit scene.
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Nov 28, 2017 21:37:00 GMT
3) No Jesse Eisenbergian Lex Luthor. Technically there was... if you stayed for the post credit scene. I didn't. It was 1am and I had to work in the morning.
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Post by haxemon on Nov 29, 2017 14:27:18 GMT
I didn't. It was 1am and I had to work in the morning. They show a prison where presumably the prisoners are going to a meal or something. A guard walks down the hall to an open door where a bald guy in orange is facing the other way. The guard calls "Luthor!" a few times and as they zoom in he turns around and it's not Luthor.
Cut to a scene of a huge yacht with a speedboat approaching. Someone gets off the boat and approaches Luthor sitting in a chair looking all rich and smug (complete with bikini girls in the hot tub IIRC). Luthor says something about "Well the good guys have a team, maybe we should have a team too" (someone will have the direct quote I'm sure). The speed boat guy is partially revealed and then Luthor adds "Don't you agree, Mr Wilson" and we finally see Slade Wilson aka DeathStroke. (Different actor than the one on Arrow.)
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Post by Jemma Simmons on Feb 14, 2018 11:50:00 GMT
Just watched this. It wasn’t bad. There were definitely some things I’d change, but overall I liked it.
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