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Post by aquaangel on May 3, 2018 13:18:58 GMT
Or Natasha has to kill Bruce and we're left with Just Hulk. That would be weird though.
I was thinking someone (either Tony or Steve) would sacrifice themselves to reverse the effects of the snap.
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Post by ayanami on May 3, 2018 13:39:26 GMT
Yeah, I'd be really surprised if we get through A4 without some kind of sacrifice play. Although, we did already have one with Vision in IW. And an attempted one when Gamora asked Peter to kill her rather than to let Thanos take her and he was actually willing to go through with it.
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Post by aquaangel on May 3, 2018 18:54:58 GMT
Before I saw the movie, I heard a lot of people saying Quill screwed the world with his actions. At first I thought his screw-up would be not keeping his promise to Gamora. He was actually going to go through with it, but Thanos replaced the bullets with bubbles. I was surprised by that. The bubbles appeared also when Gamora tried to kill herself to keep Thanos from sacrificing her to get the soul stone. I haven't heard anyone mention the bubbles' second appearance though. Am I the only one who noticed that?
By the way, what happened to Wanda's accent?
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Post by nillindeiel on May 4, 2018 12:52:41 GMT
Before I saw the movie, I heard a lot of people saying Quill screwed the world with his actions. At first I thought his screw-up would be not keeping his promise to Gamora. He was actually going to go through with it, but Thanos replaced the bullets with bubbles. I was surprised by that. The bubbles appeared also when Gamora tried to kill herself to keep Thanos from sacrificing her to get the soul stone. I haven't heard anyone mention the bubbles' second appearance though. Am I the only one who noticed that? By the way, what happened to Wanda's accent?She still had it, it just wasn't as thick. Which I think works, some people lose their accents over time/can lose them kind of quick (especially if they're no longer spending time/living where they grew up/living around people with the same accent... and seeing as she's largely been living in the U.S. since the end of Age of Ultron/for the past several years....) |
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Post by polgara on May 5, 2018 2:08:43 GMT
I would not worry too much about that theory. To wield the soul stone, you have to kill someone you love. For Tony that would be Pepper, or possibly War Machine. It would never be Cap. I mean, yeah they were somewhat friends, but not enough that it would work for the soul stone. I do believe Heimdall is 100% gone. Vision could possibly be restored by Shuri. Not sure about Loki. I want him to come back because I love him, but I just don't know. Gamora might come back, but I'm not one hundred percent confident on that at all. Eh, bros before...   Either way, even if this character combination maybe doesn't exactly fit the bill, I think the idea behind it is still pretty sound. I don't know how The Snap was reversed in the comics, but I can really only see two ways of doing it. Either some form of time travel to make it so it never happened in the first place or a second Snap to make the first undone. As I can't imagine Thanos doing that, it would have to be someone else, who took the gauntlet from him and it seems like a reasonable assumption, that, in order to wield the Soul Stone, the same price would have to be paid as the first time. So how about Bucky having to kill Steve? Or maybe it's Tony, after all, and he has to kill Pepper, like you said. So instead of getting a wedding, he ends up holding a funeral. Talk about a downer ending... Or maybe some other character combination. You name it. As to your list, yeah, I think aside from Heimdall, who's definitely a goner, they're all up in the air to a certain degree. It certainly looks like Loki is gone for good as well, though, given the way he died. It was a perfect conclusion of his character arc - (did I mention that he called himself Odinson?!?) - and he even turned blue in the end. It's like the angel wing shadows on Supernatural. Death confirmed. On the other hand, if Tom were to say that he'd be up for future appearances, I really don't think Marvel would say no, given his character's popularity. But, I don't expect a return in A4. Maybe make it a future Thor movie, where Thor has to go to Valhalla to return Loki from the dead, but I think for the moment he's truly gone. Well, Bucky can't kill Steve because he is gone, and no way is the MCU dark enough for Tony to kill Pepper. Having our heroes kill each other seems highly unlikely. The only way it would work would be a voluntary sacrifice. I can see Steve having Tony kill him to make it work, but I certainly hope that's not the way they fix everything. |
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Post by ayanami on May 5, 2018 8:06:40 GMT
Eh, bros before... Either way, even if this character combination maybe doesn't exactly fit the bill, I think the idea behind it is still pretty sound. I don't know how The Snap was reversed in the comics, but I can really only see two ways of doing it. Either some form of time travel to make it so it never happened in the first place or a second Snap to make the first undone. As I can't imagine Thanos doing that, it would have to be someone else, who took the gauntlet from him and it seems like a reasonable assumption, that, in order to wield the Soul Stone, the same price would have to be paid as the first time. So how about Bucky having to kill Steve? Or maybe it's Tony, after all, and he has to kill Pepper, like you said. So instead of getting a wedding, he ends up holding a funeral. Talk about a downer ending... Or maybe some other character combination. You name it. As to your list, yeah, I think aside from Heimdall, who's definitely a goner, they're all up in the air to a certain degree. It certainly looks like Loki is gone for good as well, though, given the way he died. It was a perfect conclusion of his character arc - (did I mention that he called himself Odinson?!?) - and he even turned blue in the end. It's like the angel wing shadows on Supernatural. Death confirmed. On the other hand, if Tom were to say that he'd be up for future appearances, I really don't think Marvel would say no, given his character's popularity. But, I don't expect a return in A4. Maybe make it a future Thor movie, where Thor has to go to Valhalla to return Loki from the dead, but I think for the moment he's truly gone. Well, Bucky can't kill Steve because he is gone, and no way is the MCU dark enough for Tony to kill Pepper. Having our heroes kill each other seems highly unlikely. The only way it would work would be a voluntary sacrifice. I can see Steve having Tony kill him to make it work, but I certainly hope that's not the way they fix everything. Lol, okay, you got me with Steve and Bucky there. I did not think that example all the way through! "Having our heroes kill each other seems highly unlikely." - You mean, like it's highly unlikely that Wanda would ever kill Vision for example, or Peter shoot at Gamora? That kind of unlikely? I agree, though, that if that kind of plot device were to be used again in A4, it would have to be voluntary like it was in IW. Well, maybe it does end with Tony having to kill the one he always loved most, only that that someone is himself. Kind of eliminates a lot of drama, I would say. |
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Post by haxemon on May 5, 2018 13:20:49 GMT
Well, maybe it does end with Tony having to kill the one he always loved most, only that that someone is himself. Kind of eliminates a lot of drama, I would say. That would be a funny twist. Some sort of exposition (maybe from Red Skull) "You must kill the one you love most" and Tony sort of going "huh" and then killing himself. Maybe have Nat do her eyebrow raise from Avengers indicating "he's kinda right" like she did after "Billionaire, Genius, Playboy, Philanthropist". |
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I'll be spending next weekend with some family I like and trying to avoid any remotely controversial conversations with others that I spend the rest of the year avoiding 