Episode 5.10 discussion (spoilers)

My first response is simply this:

Hey Inhumans on ABC: you can have a villain like Maximus and get canned after eight eps, OR you can have a villain like Kasius and be the #1 rated Marvel television show.  Just saying.......

Here's the chat.

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Have to say the alien PCP was Cassius was a major letdown.  He's supposed to have extra strength (on top of Kree strength) and no pain and he can barely go up against Mack?  I mean, remember the first episode with a live Kree (the guy from Warehouse 13), he was as strong as Lady Sif and she's a warrior.  In second episode with Professor Randolph, he rips the door off a prison cell without even exerting himself and he isn't a warrior.  Drugged up Cassius should have been throwing Mack around like a rag doll.  Someone needs to send these guys a copy of the movie Alien Nation.

Nah, I was just trying to avoid saying the writers should watch their own show. 

It did bother me, but the bothering increased with the Kree now taking additional PEDs.

March 2nd? (In my best Vader voice) NOOOOOOOOoooooooo!!!!!!

Yikes, this was hard to watch. The episode where the team makes it back to 2018, the episode where the people in 2091 take back their own destiny, should have been a happy affair, but instead we get more questions and the overall feeling of dread and inevitability. It was a well put together show for all that was revealed.


It all starts out okay, Kasius finds Sinara and goes insane... Okay, more insane. I mean off-the-wall psychotic insane. Kim Jong-un insane. That's sayin' sumthin'.  He did reveal something important, that it was probably Kasius' father that were the alien invaders that Voss described. They were going to enslave the Earth, or at least take the Earth for themselves, which is probably the same thing.

That probably also means Hale is working for the Kree. But it still doesn't make sense that she knows that the Team is an advisary. Or maybe the Watchdogs, seeing the masks in the preview. They still have a beef with SHIELD.

And from there, it all goes downhill, with only a few bright spots here and there. Overall, this episode moved the story along the plot along at a rapid pace, but from a personal standpoint, it was a sucky episode.

How did it suck? Let me count the ways.

It sounds like they're setting up Mack and Yo-Yo to take Flint with 'em. Fail.

Yo-Yo is the "seer". She never should have gone to confront the Kree in 2022. (Isn't hindsight great?) And she confirms the time loop. And it had to be Yo-Yo who had to find Yo-Yo. Makes it all the more horrible.

Very well done was the intercutting of the Yo-Yo/Yo-Yo exhibition scenes with the Daisy/Coulson interaction, with the "Training to lead" reveal.

Which led to more suck. "Phil Coulson is dying. And you have to let him." So the team tries to save Coulson, and that decision is what causes the destruction of the Earth?

Kasius slits Yo-Yo's(2091) throat. Brutal. But the scenes of Kasius reacting to the potion just before the break were comical. And his Silvester Stallone voice saying, "I'm gonna beat your body with your own skull." was charming.

I know the damn episode ended on a happy note with Flint and Tess looking at the world, giving Flint the little globe, but it seemed a little hollow leaving 2091 that way.


Also sucking, was all of the comic relief for the past couple of weeks has died. But there were some good moments...

Deke: (to Tess) I heard you were dead. You look good for dead. I mean you don't look great, but you been through something...
Come on. Deke is like the great grandson of Hunter. And I thought the conversations between the two formerly dead people (Coulson and Tess) was touching...

Deke: (To Daisy) You... You drive me out of my skull, this part of you, this impetuous, bull headed... When the other side of you is a friggin' hero, who can't help herself but do good, and be great... The world needs that person to make it home. So try not to destroy it when you get there.
Daisy: It was almost nice knowing you.
Deke: You're a pain in my ass.
Nice exit speech, Deke. It made Coulson proud. Glad to see him die a hero, and not a dick.

Flint is about to rebuild the monolith, and Fitz remarks he's sorry he killed the guards in front of him. Right. He just sucked a half-dozen kree guards out into space. Irony. Then Fitz call's Jemma his fiance, and Mack replies, "Fiance?"

Enoch: My battery has sustained me more than 32,000 Earth years. Modifying the cell stack could create a thermal feedback capable of delivering more than enough power.
Deke: Thermal feedback, what happens to you in that scenario?
Enoch: I will expire, knowing I returned my friends home. And then my battery chemistry will consume my body, in an exothemal reaction violent enough to decimate several levels of the lighthouse.
Deke: So it's not great for the guy standing next to you flipping the switch.
Enoch: That person, would be completely atomized.
Deke: I'm liking this plan less.

Enoch runs on batteries? Or does his "body" run on batteries? I'm also assuming the destruction of "several" levels of the lighthouse will wipe out the rest of the Kree...

So the choices when the team get back are bleak. Destroy the world and/or let the Kree enslave the world and/or Coulson must die.

Did Mack make it? He was behind Jemma and Yo-Yo. LESS HUGGING, MORE RUNNING! And we never saw the explosion. Maybe when the series returns and they have the CGI done.

Were the framework and the notebook Enoch was writing in were just red herrings?  Who built the Lighthouse?  I have to wait four weeks for the next ep? Really?

He was the one who carried Daisy.  Coulson is clearly there in the preview for the show in four weeks.


FOUR WEEKS?  ARRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH....

Maybe she went to the rendezvous point, and came back when she found Mack went to look for her.