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Post by DoTheMath on Feb 24, 2017 2:51:12 GMT
Just before CoulBot went to get bombed with MayBot, he asked FixedBot if he could program the Daisy chain with basic search and destroy functionality and FixedBot said he could and ran downstairs to accomplish that task. Questions: Did FixedBot program the DaisyBots? Did the explosion take out the containment pod full of Daisies? Will we see Daisy on Daisy fights in the next arc? I know in an interview Jed Whedon answered a question concerning the size of the blast: "Did the explosion take out all the LMDs at HQ?" - with the answer (paraphrasing) that the intent was to leave that arc behind and move into the next one (gee, what an unusually vague answer from an AoS showrunner  ). Does that stated intent also refer to the bouquet of Daisies? If the explosion DID take out all the Daisies, it had to be one helluva blast that took out most of HQ (which also means a lot of dead agents). It'll be interesting to see how much of the newly built up SHIELD actually remains.......... |
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Post by koos on Feb 24, 2017 11:47:41 GMT
I actually thought it blew up the entire base. But I can be wrong. And it is only a part.
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Post by ayanami on Feb 24, 2017 12:06:57 GMT
I actually thought it blew up the entire base. But I can be wrong. And it is only a part. I don't think they would have killed all those agents on the base, so I'm gonna go with no. |
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Post by Jemma Simmons on Feb 24, 2017 12:11:59 GMT
I actually thought it blew up the entire base. But I can be wrong. And it is only a part. I don't think they would have killed all those agents on the base, so I'm gonna go with no. Right, especially after explicitly having the "redshirts" pull unconscious agents to safety from the fire. |
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Post by koos on Feb 24, 2017 21:07:14 GMT
Would be fun if the redshirts actually saved the day I also have the idea that most of them are connected to Hydra, somehow. Radcliffe is the leader. Easy for him, since build the whole thing with the help of his tool, AIDA. Fitz is his son. And part of the family business as such. Ward and Daisyare agents of Hydra Coulson is just teacher but married with head of security: May. Only Mack is not connected. |
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Post by antonjacobson on Feb 25, 2017 1:33:10 GMT
Anyone else thought that the Hydra building looked suspiciously like a shorter version of the triskelion?
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Post by NorrinRaddOfZennla on Feb 25, 2017 7:44:04 GMT
Anyone else thought that the Hydra building looked suspiciously like a shorter version of the triskelion? It looked exactly like the Triskelion to me. I'll have to go back and check. Did it look like it had fewer floors? |
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Post by sigasahab on Feb 25, 2017 16:01:55 GMT
I'm certain it is the same as the Triskelion in Winter Soldier except SHIELD didn't have their logo on it. (They did have that sculpture version of the logo inside).
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Post by koos on Feb 26, 2017 8:03:35 GMT
Yoiu know, it makes no sense to me that they never replaced Daisy. She's always been the most dangrous one. She should have been replaced first. Focus should have been on her.
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Post by DoTheMath on Feb 26, 2017 13:53:58 GMT
Yoiu know, it makes no sense to me that they never replaced Daisy. She's always been the most dangrous one. She should have been replaced first. Focus should have been on her. Daisy brings up an interesting point: We've seen IRL May physically react to the Maytrix. Daisy is now in there without being prepped by AIDA (no mapping, no regret removed). IMO, Radcliffe/AIDA were to map Daisy and put her in The Framework, the regret they'd have to remove is her Inhumanity (even if it's not a regret); if for no other reason, safety would be the biggest concern. If, like May, Daisy physically reacts to The Framework, she could quake the hell out of IRL Daisy's surroundings, i.e. she gets in a confrontation/fight in The Framework and uses her powers......... those powers would/could actually be unleashed in her IRL surroundings. I hope Piper thinks about putting the Zephyr on the ground before that happens..... :-) |
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Post by ayanami on Feb 26, 2017 15:24:07 GMT
Yoiu know, it makes no sense to me that they never replaced Daisy. She's always been the most dangrous one. She should have been replaced first. Focus should have been on her. Daisy brings up an interesting point: We've seen IRL May physically react to the Maytrix. Daisy is now in there without being prepped by AIDA (no mapping, no regret removed). IMO, Radcliffe/AIDA were to map Daisy and put her in The Framework, the regret they'd have to remove is her Inhumanity (even if it's not a regret); if for no other reason, safety would be the biggest concern. If, like May, Daisy physically reacts to The Framework, she could quake the hell out of IRL Daisy's surroundings, i.e. she gets in a confrontation/fight in The Framework and uses her powers......... those powers would/could actually be unleashed in her IRL surroundings. I hope Piper thinks about putting the Zephyr on the ground before that happens..... :-) Remind me, what reason did Ratcliffe give for keeping the people he put in the framework alive in the first place? Seems like a lot of hassle if they're gonna die anyway and he truly believed their "real" life was in the simulation now. |
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Post by DoTheMath on Feb 26, 2017 15:55:43 GMT
Daisy brings up an interesting point: We've seen IRL May physically react to the Maytrix. Daisy is now in there without being prepped by AIDA (no mapping, no regret removed). IMO, Radcliffe/AIDA were to map Daisy and put her in The Framework, the regret they'd have to remove is her Inhumanity (even if it's not a regret); if for no other reason, safety would be the biggest concern. If, like May, Daisy physically reacts to The Framework, she could quake the hell out of IRL Daisy's surroundings, i.e. she gets in a confrontation/fight in The Framework and uses her powers......... those powers would/could actually be unleashed in her IRL surroundings. I hope Piper thinks about putting the Zephyr on the ground before that happens..... :-) Remind me, what reason did Ratcliffe give for keeping the people he put in the framework alive in the first place? Seems like a lot of hassle if they're gonna die anyway and he truly believed their "real" life was in the simulation now. I think this: When he put May in the Maytrix, he only had a taste of the Darkhold, but as time went on and as he read the book more, his priorities changed...... especially after Agnes came into play. The crazy thing is that he seemed to want the LMDs as a way to live forever by placing consciousness into an LMD, but switched to The Framework as a means of living forever. An invented reality isn't living forever, it's programming. It may seem real, but it's just a simulation. It seems to me that the Darkhold changed his desires instead of showing him how to achieve his desires. The Darkhold is still Screwing with everything. It's like, the more people that read it, the more it learns what to do in order to achieve it's endgame........... |
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Post by koos on Feb 26, 2017 17:13:00 GMT
Yoiu know, it makes no sense to me that they never replaced Daisy. She's always been the most dangrous one. She should have been replaced first. Focus should have been on her. Daisy brings up an interesting point: We've seen IRL May physically react to the Maytrix. Daisy is now in there without being prepped by AIDA (no mapping, no regret removed). IMO, Radcliffe/AIDA were to map Daisy and put her in The Framework, the regret they'd have to remove is her Inhumanity (even if it's not a regret); if for no other reason, safety would be the biggest concern. If, like May, Daisy physically reacts to The Framework, she could quake the hell out of IRL Daisy's surroundings, i.e. she gets in a confrontation/fight in The Framework and uses her powers......... those powers would/could actually be unleashed in her IRL surroundings. I hope Piper thinks about putting the Zephyr on the ground before that happens..... :-) Makes no sense to me. They fought a hard battle to get her WITH the intention to put her in the framework. AIDA even confirmed this. And then she will be a danger as well. |
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Post by ayanami on Feb 26, 2017 17:30:20 GMT
Remind me, what reason did Ratcliffe give for keeping the people he put in the framework alive in the first place? Seems like a lot of hassle if they're gonna die anyway and he truly believed their "real" life was in the simulation now. I think this: When he put May in the Maytrix, he only had a taste of the Darkhold, but as time went on and as he read the book more, his priorities changed...... especially after Agnes came into play. The crazy thing is that he seemed to want the LMDs as a way to live forever by placing consciousness into an LMD, but switched to The Framework as a means of living forever. An invented reality isn't living forever, it's programming. It may seem real, but it's just a simulation. It seems to me that the Darkhold changed his desires instead of showing him how to achieve his desires. The Darkhold is still Screwing with everything. It's like, the more people that read it, the more it learns what to do in order to achieve it's endgame...........Which would be...? |
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Post by DoTheMath on Feb 26, 2017 17:50:20 GMT
I think this: When he put May in the Maytrix, he only had a taste of the Darkhold, but as time went on and as he read the book more, his priorities changed...... especially after Agnes came into play. The crazy thing is that he seemed to want the LMDs as a way to live forever by placing consciousness into an LMD, but switched to The Framework as a means of living forever. An invented reality isn't living forever, it's programming. It may seem real, but it's just a simulation. It seems to me that the Darkhold changed his desires instead of showing him how to achieve his desires. The Darkhold is still Screwing with everything. It's like, the more people that read it, the more it learns what to do in order to achieve it's endgame...........Dunno. Muse ran outta juice. I'd have to read The Darkhold to get that answer; and .... well.... you know.... vicious circle. |
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