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Post by NorrinRaddOfZennla on Feb 22, 2017 20:31:19 GMT
Aida was clearly planning for including Daisy in the framework if for no other reason than to keep the entire team pacified. Inhumans are clearly part of the structure of the Framework but has the Darkhold designed the structure to include their actual powers? With Daisy hacking her way in will she be able to use her Inhuman abilities? |
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Post by nillindeiel on Feb 22, 2017 21:01:20 GMT
Naturally we'll have to wait and see for certain, but Radcliffe kept making a big deal about how - with the Framework - perception is reality.... so I'm inclined to think that she would have her powers because she'd believe herself to still have her powers? Though it kind of hurts my brain to think about it  |
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Post by backroadjunkie on Feb 22, 2017 21:08:49 GMT
It's an alternate reality. No matter how realistic, it's an artificial construct, and anything is possible within it.
We have dead people alive, alive people dead, etc. Everyone could have superpowers should the Framework allow it.
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Post by ayanami on Feb 22, 2017 22:04:28 GMT
Aida was clearly planning for including Daisy in the framework if for no other reason than to keep the entire team pacified. Inhumans are clearly part of the structure of the Framework but has the Darkhold designed the structure to include their actual powers? With daisy hacking her way in will she be able to use her Inhuman abilities? I could also be a question of whether Matrix-Skye ever went through terrigenisis. |
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Post by NorrinRaddOfZennla on Feb 22, 2017 22:14:07 GMT
It's an alternate reality. No matter how realistic, it's an artificial construct, and anything is possible within it. We have dead people alive, alive people dead, etc. Everyone could have superpowers should the Framework allow it. Which begs the question, and bear with me, will an unlimited force be able to move and immovable object? If Daisy understands that she is in the Framework, and she clearly does, can she break the Framework just because she 'Perceives' she can? Several times May through sheer will power kept transcending the Framework and Radcliffe continued to seek a pacifier for May or a distractor. An Inhuman with awareness inside the Framework seems to me to be a wildcard. Daisy, Radcliffe and Jemma all entered the Framework fully self-aware. It will be interesting how the show decides to deal with that same condition as in the Matrix. The Framework is NOT a world without pain it is a world that masks the pain of choices and survival and then tricks the person into pretending that pain doesn't exist. |
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Post by Jemma Simmons on Feb 22, 2017 22:14:22 GMT
Aida was clearly planning for including Daisy in the framework if for no other reason than to keep the entire team pacified. Inhumans are clearly part of the structure of the Framework but has the Darkhold designed the structure to include their actual powers? With daisy hacking her way in will she be able to use her Inhuman abilities? I could also be a question of whether Matrix-Skye ever went through terrigenisis. Excellent point, too! |
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Post by koos on Feb 22, 2017 22:20:32 GMT
It's possible she has inhuman powers if AIDA programmed it. Maybe she can figure out Neo-powers, since she knows it is fake. Maybe she get help from Radcliffe is she is able to find him. But I am more interested in Simmons. She ended up with an avatar who is dead. Could she become a zombie or so?
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Post by NorrinRaddOfZennla on Feb 22, 2017 22:29:57 GMT
It's possible she has inhuman powers if AIDA programmed it. Maybe she can figure out Neo-powers, since she knows it is fake. Maybe she get help from Radcliffe is she is able to find him. But I am more interested in Simmons. She ended up with an avatar who is dead. Could she become a zombie oroles as characters r so? It is my personal belief that Simmons is Ward and Brett Dalton will get the chance to play another challenging role. Ward will have to convince Fitz that he is indeed Jemma and that Fitz loves Jemma regardless of what he thinks she looks like. They could also go the route of introducing the Supernatural and have Fitz have to be swayed by the supernatural presence of Jemma. In essence a ghost. Fitz's very scientific mind might not be able to leave the Framework and re-enter into a world of known personal pain just because of a floating phantom. I think both Jemma and Ward will have challenging roles if my version is close to where the story is going. Which I doubt. |
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Post by ayanami on Feb 22, 2017 22:31:27 GMT
It's possible she has inhuman powers if AIDA programmed it. Maybe she can figure out Neo-powers, since she knows it is fake. Maybe she get help from Radcliffe is she is able to find him. But I am more interested in Simmons. She ended up with an avatar who is dead. Could she become a zombie or so? Or a ghost. |
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Post by koos on Feb 22, 2017 22:35:26 GMT
I don't think Simmons will be Ward, but it is definitely possible. Simmons being a Ghost is more likely.
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Post by backroadjunkie on Feb 22, 2017 23:09:53 GMT
Which begs the question, and bear with me, will an unlimited force be able to move and immovable object? If Daisy understands that she is in the Framework, and she clearly does, can she break the Framework just because she 'Perceives' she can? Several times May through sheer will power kept transcending the Framework and Radcliffe continued to seek a pacifier for May or a distractor. An Inhuman with awareness inside the Framework seems to me to be a wildcard. Daisy, Radcliffe and Jemma all entered the Framework fully self-aware. It will be interesting how the show decides to deal with that same condition as in the Matrix. I'd consider the people within the framework more like peeps. (That's a Roller Coaster Tycoon reference.) They're free to do whatever they want, but only within the parameters the Darkhold sets. The entire reality of the framework is a construct of the Darkhold. (At least I assume it's the Darkhold that created the Framework.) The reason May was able to almost to break out, was because she could go beyond AIDA's programming. Since then, they've learned from their mistakes, and have also acquired the book, which is how I assume AIDA got the Framework to its current state. If Jemma's dead within the Framework, I wonder if she'll be operating outside of it. Not necessarily a ghost as some others have suggested, but being able to influence the Framework without being a part of it. If other's are correct and she's Ward, then there's this whole genitalia thing they'd have to deal with. I'd rather they not go there. BWAhahahaha... Well, we'll probably find out in five weeks, six days and a few hours... |
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Post by koos on Feb 22, 2017 23:18:09 GMT
The entire reality of the framework is a construct of the Darkhold. (At least I assume it's the Darkhold that created the Framework.) . The Darkhold is behind everything. But, the framework might just be a solution that Radcliffe came up with, so that the Darkhold can take over the real world bvery easily with LMD's that contain quantum brains. |
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Post by terminator22 on Feb 22, 2017 23:24:47 GMT
I don't think Simmons will be Ward, but it is definitely possible. Simmons being a Ghost is more likely. I'm hoping she is a ghost. I really don't want to see her in Ward's body.  |
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Post by koos on Feb 22, 2017 23:30:36 GMT
Agreed. SimmonsWard/Daisy is the worst triangle ship ever.
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Post by FreeKresge on Feb 23, 2017 5:16:12 GMT
My guess is that Simmons assumed that any woman with Fitz has to be her, so her consciousness is in the limo with Fitz. She may have a rude awakening the first time she looks into a mirror.
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I'll be spending next weekend with some family I like and trying to avoid any remotely controversial conversations with others that I spend the rest of the year avoiding 