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Post by backroadjunkie on Feb 26, 2021 19:28:07 GMT
This is Chaos Magic, Wanda. And that makes you, The Scarlet Witch.
Well, I was all, "How cool was that!"
Then, there was that post-WandaVision-credit scene.
Wasn't expecting that....
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Post by backroadjunkie on Feb 26, 2021 19:48:38 GMT
In my mid-season review, I wrote:I really hate it when I'm being really sarcastic, and it turns out to be accurate.
And I have that very same Dick Van Dyke DVD set, lol.
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Post by haxemon on Feb 26, 2021 23:06:07 GMT
I am not certain that the show she was watching while with Hydra was "real". It could have been in her mind or could have been a hex that somehow the TV was picking up that show/signal.
I didn't mind the reveal that she watched old videos to learn English - that's not that uncommon outside North America actually.
I still think there's more than we've been shown going on with Director Tyler Hayward. I think he's more than just a govt. a-hole trying to create sentient weapons. We still didn't get a "big bad" reveal (if there is one coming) so perhaps Memphisto is working a few angles? Or even possessing Hayward?
I was actually expecting the traditional penultimate flash-back episode to include an actual cameo from Aaron Taylor-Johnson. Something that would either further crush Wanda or something that would help pull her out of the fog (or both). Still a great episode though!
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Post by backroadjunkie on Feb 27, 2021 1:41:54 GMT
I am not certain that the show she was watching while with Hydra was "real". It could have been in her mind or could have been a hex that somehow the TV was picking up that show/signal. The Brady Bunch episode? It's from S1E7, titled, " Kitty Karry-All Is Missing". Yeah, I took a couple of the lines from the show she was watching and looked it up. (I do stuff like that. The DVD show they showed, " It May Look Like a Walnut" scared the crap out of me when I was a kid, lol...) S1 E7 Kitty Karry-All Is MissingI thought the illegal DVD's were interesting. There's a fascinating documentary out there called, " Chuck Norris vs. Communism." No, it's not what you think. It's about pre-revolution 1980s communist Romania, and how the smuggling of 1980's Hollywood movies on VHS showed the captive population the world outside of the Iron Curtain. It's mainly told from Margareta Nistor's POV, the woman who translated most of the movies from English to Romanian. It details how the movies imported, dubbed, and distributed, partially leading to the downfall of Ceausescu. It's a interesting watch if you ever get the chance to see it. That's been my thought since Hayward was introduced, lol. I don't actually think Agatha is the main antagonist. It's Hayward. (Though I'm still unclear whether Wanda did actually steal Vision's body, or whether that was a lie from Hayward.) I'm still trying to figure out how the series is going to finish, now that there's only one ep left. One hopeful sign, this was the longest episode yet. Maybe the finale will be long enough to wrap it up... (I'm worried it won't be wrapped up, and will be the prologue for Strange 2. Strange 2 won't be released until March of next year...) |
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Post by Hari Seldon on Feb 27, 2021 2:22:12 GMT
I am not certain that the show she was watching while with Hydra was "real". It could have been in her mind or could have been a hex that somehow the TV was picking up that show/signal. The Brady Bunch episode? It's from S1E7, titled, " Kitty Karry-All Is Missing". Yeah, I took a couple of the lines from the show she was watching and looked it up. (I do stuff like that. The DVD show they showed, " It May Look Like a Walnut" scared the crap out of me when I was a kid, lol...) S1 E7 Kitty Karry-All Is MissingI thought the illegal DVD's were interesting. There's a fascinating documentary out there called, " Chuck Norris vs. Communism." No, it's not what you think. It's about pre-revolution 1980s communist Romania, and how the smuggling of 1980's Hollywood movies on VHS showed the captive population the world outside of the Iron Curtain. It's mainly told from Margareta Nistor's POV, the woman who translated most of the movies from English to Romanian. It details how the movies imported, dubbed, and distributed, partially leading to the downfall of Ceausescu. It's a interesting watch if you ever get the chance to see it. That's been my thought since Hayward was introduced, lol. I don't actually think Agatha is the main antagonist. It's Hayward. (Though I'm still unclear whether Wanda did actually steal Vision's body, or whether that was a lie from Hayward.) I'm still trying to figure out how the series is going to finish, now that there's only one ep left. One hopeful sign, this was the longest episode yet. Maybe the finale will be long enough to wrap it up... (I'm worried it won't be wrapped up, and will be the prologue for Strange 2. Strange 2 won't be released until March of next year...) Just checking, but did you see the mid-credits scene? |
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Post by backroadjunkie on Feb 27, 2021 8:27:14 GMT
Just checking, but did you see the mid-credits scene? Probably not spoilers, but rampant speculation follows... You mean the not-Vision scene? (I was going to call him robo-Vision, but that might be redundant, lol...) I didn't specifically go into the scene yet since it's a huge-effing-colossal spoiler.  It's one of the big reasons I don't know how they're going to end the show with only one more episode. My thoughts. I hope we're not looking at Vision's new body. That would be the second time Vision became a being again by taking a body meant for someone else. I mean, Vision didn't want to be resurrected. (Maybe we should call that condition, "Coulsoned", lol.) But then too, Vision didn't want his body used to create new weapons. Oh, wait... Thinking Strange 2 and 616, I'm wondering if we haven't just seen a vehicle for someone like Nightmare or another dark side minion to inhabit, but the fly in Agatha's basement is still screaming Mephisto as the big-bad. I think we have yet to see the set-up for Strange 2, and I wonder if not-Vision is a part of it... |
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Post by backroadjunkie on Feb 27, 2021 9:12:00 GMT
Well, here's a thought.
There well could be a season 2 of WandaVision. If kept in the same time frame as this season, it would end just before Strange 2 is released.
That means they could end this season with any number of cliff-hangers that we'd have to wait a year (okay, 10 months) to resolve.
Ugh.
Then too, there could be other tie-ins, such as Loki's series, so there is that...
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Post by haxemon on Feb 27, 2021 14:13:24 GMT
By not real I meant that it wasn't Hydra playing the show for her. I think it was a hex or even just her imagination. If there even was a TV/monitor in her cell, it was likely not showing anything to anyone other than Wanda. Or if it was showing that old episode it was because Wanda had hexed it. |
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Post by TommyWizard on Mar 2, 2021 16:15:33 GMT
I just saw the episode...so many stuff happening
I sure wasnt expecting them to actually call it Chaos Magic like the comics! And the post credit scene...Hayward got his own little Sentinel
Also yeah i wonder how they're going to wrap everything in one last episode...Agatha & Wanda / Hayway about to go on the offensive / Fietro & Monica unheard of the last episode....
Also what Agatha said about Fietro...he makes me think even more that he's the mutant Pietro!
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Post by ayanami on Mar 4, 2021 2:26:58 GMT
I am not certain that the show she was watching while with Hydra was "real". It could have been in her mind or could have been a hex that somehow the TV was picking up that show/signal. I didn't mind the reveal that she watched old videos to learn English - that's not that uncommon outside North America actually. I still think there's more than we've been shown going on with Director Tyler Hayward. I think he's more than just a govt. a-hole trying to create sentient weapons. We still didn't get a "big bad" reveal (if there is one coming) so perhaps Memphisto is working a few angles? Or even possessing Hayward? I was actually expecting the traditional penultimate flash-back episode to include an actual cameo from Aaron Taylor-Johnson. Something that would either further crush Wanda or something that would help pull her out of the fog (or both). Still a great episode though! Oh, I was so VERY disappointed about that one! Would have loved to see him back in the MCU, even if only for a few minutes. I've always preferred this version of the character to the X-Men one, probably *because* he wasn't as absurdly overpowered to the point of making everyone else redundant. As to the post-credit scene, well, I'm not sure if they're really gonna be able to wrap everything up in just one more episode, but as far as I see it, this S.W.O.R.D. creation is our direct ticket to getting the real Vision back. The version of him that Wanda created inside the Hex is clearly more than some superficial hocus pocus. Not only has Vision proven that throughout the season by operating completely independantly from Wanda, but the way he was created was also very distinct from the quick and "flashy" nature of everything else inside the hex either being converted or just appearing. The amount of detail and especially the yellow light effects seemed to indicate to me that this was the power of the mind stone - the source of Wanda's powers - at work here. And since it was the mind stone that gave Vision actual life in the first place, I'd say that's as close to the original as you can possibly get. Not all we need is to get this Vision back into his original hardware, and voilá! One real-deal-Vision, ready to go! That is, if Marvel can do nice and happy for once. Can we do nice and happy? Pretty please?! |
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Post by TommyWizard on Mar 4, 2021 3:10:57 GMT
I am not certain that the show she was watching while with Hydra was "real". It could have been in her mind or could have been a hex that somehow the TV was picking up that show/signal. I didn't mind the reveal that she watched old videos to learn English - that's not that uncommon outside North America actually. I still think there's more than we've been shown going on with Director Tyler Hayward. I think he's more than just a govt. a-hole trying to create sentient weapons. We still didn't get a "big bad" reveal (if there is one coming) so perhaps Memphisto is working a few angles? Or even possessing Hayward? I was actually expecting the traditional penultimate flash-back episode to include an actual cameo from Aaron Taylor-Johnson. Something that would either further crush Wanda or something that would help pull her out of the fog (or both). Still a great episode though! I've always preferred this version of the character to the X-Men one, probably *because* he wasn't as absurdly overpowered to the point of making everyone else redundant. Speaking of which, i feel like they tried to bring him to this Quicksilver MCU speed level, and sorry if my post looks weird i'm on phone rn |
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Post by haxemon on Mar 4, 2021 13:53:34 GMT
The version of him that Wanda created inside the Hex is clearly more than some superficial hocus pocus. Not only has Vision proven that throughout the season by operating completely independantly from Wanda, but the way he was created was also very distinct from the quick and "flashy" nature of everything else inside the hex either being converted or just appearing. The amount of detail and especially the yellow light effects seemed to indicate to me that this was the power of the mind stone - the source of Wanda's powers - at work here. And since it was the mind stone that gave Vision actual life in the first place, I'd say that's as close to the original as you can possibly get. Not all we need is to get this Vision back into his original hardware, and voilá! One real-deal-Vision, ready to go! That is, if Marvel can do nice and happy for once. Can we do nice and happy? Pretty please?! I think the hex is essentially a pocket reality that Wanda created. HexVision was created there so can't flip over but there does seem to be a path where he can "merge" with WhiteVision in some way to live on in the MCU reality. I don't think him coming apart when he tried to leave the hex was an indication he's not real, just that he's more tied to the hex reality than the other people who were essentially converted to it rather than built in it. As you alluded to with how much it took to create him rather than just star-wipe others from "now" to the 50s. |
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