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Post by haxemon on Feb 12, 2021 23:11:27 GMT
Man this show is so great. LOL
At the risk of exposing the fanboy inside, there are so many times while watching this episode where I'm literally thinking "this is SO great!"
Won't spoil it for anyone who hasn't watched yet, but the nods to the comics and to the existing "pop culture" spanning well beyond the MCU and even FOX-U ... man. So awesome.
And for a show that's so campy and goofy to have an underlying current that's truly heart-breaking as well. So well done.
They have to stick the landing of course, but so far, so great!
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Post by Jemma Simmons on Feb 12, 2021 23:38:32 GMT
Man this show is so great. LOL At the risk of exposing the fanboy inside, there are so many times while watching this episode where I'm literally thinking "this is SO great!" Won't spoil it for anyone who hasn't watched yet, but the nods to the comics and to the existing "pop culture" spanning well beyond the MCU and even FOX-U ... man. So awesome. And for a show that's so campy and goofy to have an underlying current that's truly heart-breaking as well. So well done. They have to stick the landing of course, but so far, so great! I just finished episode 6 and I totally agree! I am just having such a blast with this show! |
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Post by ayanami on Feb 13, 2021 2:58:01 GMT
Loved the "Sokovian fortune teller" and "Mexican wrester" costumes in the episode. Great way to incorporate the original character designs. And I gotta say, Wanda looked smoking!  Sure, it might be a bit of a cheesy, old-timey outfit, but she definitely rocked it! |
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Post by Hari Seldon on Feb 13, 2021 4:40:19 GMT
I haven't read the comics, but I had a feeling that was how Vision was drawn at an earlier time.
I also liked Woo being fully capable in the fight. The way things are these days I was half expecting Rambeau to take out three then have to come help the male with his one, but he took out two solo.
It also looks to me like Vision would be unable to survive outside the force wall.
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Post by haxemon on Feb 13, 2021 13:38:51 GMT
I haven't read the comics, but I had a feeling that was how Vision was drawn at an earlier time.
I also liked Woo being fully capable in the fight. The way things are these days I was half expecting Rambeau to take out three then have to come help the male with his one, but he took out two solo.
It also looks to me like Vision would be unable to survive outside the force wall.
Yeah I'm thinking they'll go one of two directions - either Vision is mostly Wanda's magic and will have to "die" again when she stops with the world she hijacked/created, or she'll have to go to another level again (with help) so that Vision can exist without the hex-world. |
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Post by Hari Seldon on Feb 13, 2021 21:43:50 GMT
I haven't read the comics, but I had a feeling that was how Vision was drawn at an earlier time.
I also liked Woo being fully capable in the fight. The way things are these days I was half expecting Rambeau to take out three then have to come help the male with his one, but he took out two solo.
It also looks to me like Vision would be unable to survive outside the force wall.
Yeah I'm thinking they'll go one of two directions - either Vision is mostly Wanda's magic and will have to "die" again when she stops with the world she hijacked/created, or she'll have to go to another level again (with help) so that Vision can exist without the hex-world. If she elevates her powers, I hope Pietro (the recast version) also gets to continue, though he needs some swimming goggles and a Walkman. |
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Post by Jemma Simmons on Feb 14, 2021 2:05:44 GMT
Yeah I'm thinking they'll go one of two directions - either Vision is mostly Wanda's magic and will have to "die" again when she stops with the world she hijacked/created, or she'll have to go to another level again (with help) so that Vision can exist without the hex-world. If she elevates her powers, I hope Pietro (the recast version) also gets to continue, though he needs some swimming goggles and a Walkman. Absolutely! |
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Post by haxemon on Feb 14, 2021 2:50:04 GMT
If she elevates her powers, I hope Pietro (the recast version) also gets to continue, though he needs some swimming goggles and a Walkman. Absolutely! Something is "up" with that character. He seems to openly know that Wanda is (at least in part) creating all this. And at one point he says something like "one minute I'm getting shot the next minute you're calling me" yet he knows that Vision is supposed to be dead? And he seems to be sort of digging for information out of Wanda or something. |
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Post by Jemma Simmons on Feb 14, 2021 2:55:27 GMT
Something is "up" with that character. He seems to openly know that Wanda is (at least in part) creating all this. And at one point he says something like "one minute I'm getting shot the next minute you're calling me" yet he knows that Vision is supposed to be dead? And he seems to be sort of digging for information out of Wanda or something. Oh for sure there's more than meets the eye there. I can't wait to see how this all plays out. |
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Post by ayanami on Feb 14, 2021 3:57:58 GMT
Something is "up" with that character. He seems to openly know that Wanda is (at least in part) creating all this. And at one point he says something like "one minute I'm getting shot the next minute you're calling me" yet he knows that Vision is supposed to be dead? And he seems to be sort of digging for information out of Wanda or something.That! At times I wasn't even sure if Wanda was even the one who brought him into town in the first place. He absolutely knows that everything that's happening is her doing, in fact, he seems even more certain of it than she is. Pietro keeps saying stuff like "You brought me here, remember?" or "This is what you wanted, right?" while Wanda herself looks mostly confused by what's happening. Then there was also the part where they both remembered stuff from their childhood differently. Plus, Wanda subsequently trying to "test" her brother - with him calling her out because of that. Note, though, that he never did answer her question! So, yeah, whatever part in the "sitcom" Pietro claims to have, he actually seems to be more interested in poking around in Wanda's head and see what she knows, which of her actions she's actually aware of, etc. Maybe it's just her subconsciousness trying to pull her out of the fake world she's living in, or maybe Pietro has somehow been "planted" inside the WandaVision show by some outside party. Either way, that might explain his "wrong" appearance. Guess we'll have to wait and see... |
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Post by haxemon on Feb 14, 2021 16:27:32 GMT
So, yeah, whatever part in the "sitcom" Pietro claims to have, he actually seems to be more interested in poking around in Wanda's head and see what she knows, which of her actions she's actually aware of, etc. Maybe it's just her subconsciousness trying to pull her out of the fake world she's living in, or maybe Pietro has somehow been "planted" inside the WandaVision show by some outside party. Either way, that might explain his "wrong" appearance. Guess we'll have to wait and see... My current line of thinking (and please note I avoid spoilers in any form, including "set photos" and other stuff) is that Wanda is not really in control here. I think she's the "battery" more than anything. I think someone else is manipulating her. Whether it's the director of SWORD or someone else I'm not sure, but while Wanda is doing a lot of this I think it's partly due to someone else making her do it and someone else helping it as well. So with "Pietro", I think he's essentially an agent of whomever is really in charge here. Either directly or indirectly. I get the feeling that whomever is doing this still doesn't fully understand Wanda's powers and that's partly why we see Pietro, Agnes and other characters stumble a bit when they lose their spot. i.e. Agnes asking if she should redo her lines, Pietro testing her, multiple characters asking Wanda if it's what she wants etc. There's a vibe here like that old Twilight Zone episode where the entire town bends to the kid's will (or the Simpsons Halloween parody if that is more familiar). I'll even go so far as to suggest that whomever is really making this happen plans to blame it all on Wanda as well. Whether Wanda will end season 1 as the victim, the suspected "bad guy" or the triumphant hero is still wide open. |
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Post by backroadjunkie on Feb 15, 2021 18:54:13 GMT
So how many still think this is a sit-com, lol...
(Why isn't this a spoiler thread?)
Can't believe they waited until ep6 before starting the real story.
I can't tell if Hayward is the real antagonist, or just really stupid. I suspect he's the big-bad, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's the one driving this entire reality for some reason. He and Mordo should get together. (Actually, they might, lol.) |
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Post by backroadjunkie on Feb 15, 2021 19:14:37 GMT
I also liked Woo being fully capable in the fight. The way things are these days I was half expecting Rambeau to take out three then have to come help the male with his one, but he took out two solo. To be fair, he's always been scatterbrained, but I don't think he's ever been portrayed as a wimpy character. He is FBI, after all.
The way Hayward grouped the three together, I'm getting more certain there'll be a SWORD/Team Rambeau, though....
Who did Rambeau call? Fury.... uh.... Talos? contacted Captain Marvel with a pager (90's tech, lol), could Rambeau do it via cell phone? (Her phone wasn't in focus enough to see who was calling...) Not sure. The problem with comic books, is they always seem to bring characters back to life. I'd like to see the opposite in the MCU, if you die, you're dead, in your reality. (Of course there's the multi-verse, so...) But, this is how they could bring Vision back. I don't know how they do it without the stone, though, and I'm not sure Wanda is powerful enough to recreate it. However, I'm pretty sure Speed and Wiccan will survive and make it out of Wanda's reality, if only to set up the Young Avengers, because I'm pretty convinced they're being introduced for that express purpose... |
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Post by backroadjunkie on Feb 15, 2021 20:00:54 GMT
So, yeah, whatever part in the "sitcom" Pietro claims to have, he actually seems to be more interested in poking around in Wanda's head and see what she knows, which of her actions she's actually aware of, etc. Maybe it's just her subconsciousness trying to pull her out of the fake world she's living in, or maybe Pietro has somehow been "planted" inside the WandaVision show by some outside party. Either way, that might explain his "wrong" appearance. Guess we'll have to wait and see... My current line of thinking (and please note I avoid spoilers in any form, including "set photos" and other stuff) is that Wanda is not really in control here. I think she's the "battery" more than anything. I think someone else is manipulating her. Whether it's the director of SWORD or someone else I'm not sure, but while Wanda is doing a lot of this I think it's partly due to someone else making her do it and someone else helping it as well. So with "Pietro", I think he's essentially an agent of whomever is really in charge here. Either directly or indirectly. I get the feeling that whomever is doing this still doesn't fully understand Wanda's powers and that's partly why we see Pietro, Agnes and other characters stumble a bit when they lose their spot. i.e. Agnes asking if she should redo her lines, Pietro testing her, multiple characters asking Wanda if it's what she wants etc. There's a vibe here like that old Twilight Zone episode where the entire town bends to the kid's will (or the Simpsons Halloween parody if that is more familiar). I'll even go so far as to suggest that whomever is really making this happen plans to blame it all on Wanda as well. Whether Wanda will end season 1 as the victim, the suspected "bad guy" or the triumphant hero is still wide open. Define your scope of "spoilers", lol. Spoilers for WandaVision, or spoilers for Phase IV? I'll make it all a spoiler... Will there be a Season 2? This is not television as we know it, so there may not be. WandaVision could just be like a "storyline" line in the comics, where at some point it just "ends". Envision it like a stand-alone movie (albeit a 4.5 hour long movie) that slots into the MCU. I mean, it'd be kinda creepy to keeping bringing back a dead android season after season, lol... (And Wanda would have to hold Westview hostage, probably not going to happen.)
Feige has already said that WandaVision will set up the rest of the MCU, so right now I'm seeing the seeds of Phase 4 being planted (mutants, characters, etc.) And since WandaVision directly sets up Strange 2, (and Wanda is in Strange 2) my guess is we'll see the shaping of things that lead us into that movie. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same big-bad in both productions.
Spoiler in a spoiler: If I'm right about the common big-bad, then if Hayward isn't the big-bad, he is probably a minion of the big-bad. If this were AoS, I'd put Hayward high on the "Need to Die" list, lol... |
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Post by haxemon on Feb 16, 2021 13:37:00 GMT
I don't know how they do it without the stone, though, and I'm not sure Wanda is powerful enough to recreate it. Didn't Banner say in Infinity War that Vision is a complex combination of JARVIS, Ultron, Banner, Stark etc.? And that without the mind stone he might not only be "whole" but it might be the best parts? I couldn't find the specific quote (and too lazy to fire up the bluray). I think they set the table from the start to be able to bring some form of Vision back. While I get the "nobody every dies" thing gets tiresome, I think it's okay to use sparingly. And when there's at least some semblance of forethought and not just lazy writers wanting an excuse to use a dead character. |
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Sure, it might be a bit of a cheesy, old-timey outfit, but she definitely rocked it! 
I'll be spending next weekend with some family I like and trying to avoid any remotely controversial conversations with others that I spend the rest of the year avoiding 