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Post by Hari Seldon on Jan 30, 2021 21:18:13 GMT
About 1/3 of the way through and I've looked at the trivia mentions for the episode and saw multiple mentions of Emma Caufield being from Buffy, but nobody saying anything about her character of Dottie sharing a first name with Bridget Reagan's villainess from Agent Carter. I wonder if they made any attempt to get Reagan.
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Post by Jemma Simmons on Jan 31, 2021 15:09:48 GMT
About 1/3 of the way through and I've looked at the trivia mentions for the episode and saw multiple mentions of Emma Caufield being from Buffy, but nobody saying anything about her character of Dottie sharing a first name with Bridget Reagan's villainess from Agent Carter. I wonder if they made any attempt to get Reagan. Yeah, I was wondering that too! |
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Post by Hari Seldon on Jan 31, 2021 19:08:02 GMT
I did finish the episode and the other thing it left me wonder is, if Wanda could conjure up the winch and mirrors and other things for the magic act, then why couldn't she conjure some food for the meal with Vision's boss in the previous episode?
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Post by Jemma Simmons on Jan 31, 2021 20:03:01 GMT
I did finish the episode and the other thing it left me wonder is, if Wanda could conjure up the winch and mirrors and other things for the magic act, then why couldn't she conjure some food for the meal with Vision's boss in the previous episode? That's a good question. I wonder if she's just getting better at that. Or now that she's realizing she can do that, she does it more often? I'm trying to think offhand if she conjured anything in any of the movies or if she just used her powers to move around things that already existed. |
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Post by haxemon on Feb 1, 2021 1:33:53 GMT
I did finish the episode and the other thing it left me wonder is, if Wanda could conjure up the winch and mirrors and other things for the magic act, then why couldn't she conjure some food for the meal with Vision's boss in the previous episode? That's a good question. I wonder if she's just getting better at that. Or now that she's realizing she can do that, she does it more often? I'm trying to think offhand if she conjured anything in any of the movies or if she just used her powers to move around things that already existed. I have several theories here. Mainly, I think this is all in Wanda's mind (or coming from her mind) so her limitations are sort of suited to the narrative she's hiding in. Which is very close to "the writers wanted it that way" but in this case Wanda is the writer. The basic vibe I'm getting so far is that Wanda has receded into a fantasy where she and Vision can have a "normal" life and she has defined "normal" by what she's seen on TV. But because she has powers that she hasn't even tapped yet, this is far beyond just her own delusion and is spilling out into the real world. So her and Vision's "characters" hiding their powers to fit in is part of her wish fulfillment. But there's also a long-standing trope about powers working on inorganic material but not organic material. Again, often a writing choice to explain why characters can or can't do certain things but also sort of explainable as self-imposed restrictions of characters. In the Secret Wars comics event, a certain character with big powers but limited by "organic/non-organic" boundaries has their mind expanded by another omni-powerful character and they can suddenly do so much more. Heck, this sort of "you can actually do it if you just believe" trope has been in such films as The Karate Kid and Major League. In the MCU cannon before this series, her powers have been limited to telekinesis and telepathy. Though this fantasy world she has created is a little bit like what she did to the Avengers in AoU when she showed them their fears - just turned up to 11. And it's her own fears but hiding behind a thin layer of her own wish. |
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Post by Jemma Simmons on Feb 1, 2021 2:04:24 GMT
That's a good question. I wonder if she's just getting better at that. Or now that she's realizing she can do that, she does it more often? I'm trying to think offhand if she conjured anything in any of the movies or if she just used her powers to move around things that already existed. I have several theories here. Mainly, I think this is all in Wanda's mind (or coming from her mind) so her limitations are sort of suited to the narrative she's hiding in. Which is very close to "the writers wanted it that way" but in this case Wanda is the writer. The basic vibe I'm getting so far is that Wanda has receded into a fantasy where she and Vision can have a "normal" life and she has defined "normal" by what she's seen on TV. But because she has powers that she hasn't even tapped yet, this is far beyond just her own delusion and is spilling out into the real world. So her and Vision's "characters" hiding their powers to fit in is part of her wish fulfillment. But there's also a long-standing trope about powers working on inorganic material but not organic material. Again, often a writing choice to explain why characters can or can't do certain things but also sort of explainable as self-imposed restrictions of characters. In the Secret Wars comics event, a certain character with big powers but limited by "organic/non-organic" boundaries has their mind expanded by another omni-powerful character and they can suddenly do so much more. Heck, this sort of "you can actually do it if you just believe" trope has been in such films as The Karate Kid and Major League. In the MCU cannon before this series, her powers have been limited to telekinesis and telepathy. Though this fantasy world she has created is a little bit like what she did to the Avengers in AoU when she showed them their fears - just turned up to 11. And it's her own fears but hiding behind a thin layer of her own wish. You know, I think you've probably hit the nail on the head here. This seems like the most likely explanation. I'm really looking forward to where they're going with this! |
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Post by ayanami on Feb 4, 2021 23:55:17 GMT
That's a good question. I wonder if she's just getting better at that. Or now that she's realizing she can do that, she does it more often? I'm trying to think offhand if she conjured anything in any of the movies or if she just used her powers to move around things that already existed. I have several theories here. Mainly, I think this is all in Wanda's mind (or coming from her mind) so her limitations are sort of suited to the narrative she's hiding in. Which is very close to "the writers wanted it that way" but in this case Wanda is the writer. The basic vibe I'm getting so far is that Wanda has receded into a fantasy where she and Vision can have a "normal" life and she has defined "normal" by what she's seen on TV. But because she has powers that she hasn't even tapped yet, this is far beyond just her own delusion and is spilling out into the real world. So her and Vision's "characters" hiding their powers to fit in is part of her wish fulfillment. But there's also a long-standing trope about powers working on inorganic material but not organic material. Again, often a writing choice to explain why characters can or can't do certain things but also sort of explainable as self-imposed restrictions of characters. In the Secret Wars comics event, a certain character with big powers but limited by "organic/non-organic" boundaries has their mind expanded by another omni-powerful character and they can suddenly do so much more. Heck, this sort of "you can actually do it if you just believe" trope has been in such films as The Karate Kid and Major League.In the MCU cannon before this series, her powers have been limited to telekinesis and telepathy. Though this fantasy world she has created is a little bit like what she did to the Avengers in AoU when she showed them their fears - just turned up to 11. And it's her own fears but hiding behind a thin layer of her own wish. And even in another MCU show when a certain speedster suddenly didn't bounce back anymore after she'd finished her run. |
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Post by backroadjunkie on Feb 6, 2021 19:16:41 GMT
That's a good question. I wonder if she's just getting better at that. Or now that she's realizing she can do that, she does it more often? I'm trying to think offhand if she conjured anything in any of the movies or if she just used her powers to move around things that already existed. I have several theories here. Mainly, I think this is all in Wanda's mind (or coming from her mind) so her limitations are sort of suited to the narrative she's hiding in. Which is very close to "the writers wanted it that way" but in this case Wanda is the writer. The basic vibe I'm getting so far is that Wanda has receded into a fantasy where she and Vision can have a "normal" life and she has defined "normal" by what she's seen on TV. But because she has powers that she hasn't even tapped yet, this is far beyond just her own delusion and is spilling out into the real world. So her and Vision's "characters" hiding their powers to fit in is part of her wish fulfillment. There is something else afoot here. I mean, the last virgin birth we saw as Anakin Skywalker, lol. I have an idea, but it goes waaaaay into spoiler territory. I'll post it in my mid-season review down in the spoiler section. I think Speed and Wiccan definitely qualify as organic. The questionable part is, if she can create life, why did she need to steal a town? Now, you can argue that the kids are just an illusion, but I'm not convinced about that.
The importance put on this show about it's place in the MCU makes me believe Speed and Wiccan are real beings. Or maybe they will be real beings. I think there's a leap between creating your own reality, and creating your own reality in 60's American television sit-coms. As I said, there's something else going on here. (I mean, well, this is Marvel. There's always something else going on here.) The show started with the small screen. I'm willing to bet that at some point, we will break into movie level events.
That's one of the whole points about the MCU on Disney+. It's actually the MCU, and they're being given the dollars to do just that. I'm hoping to see the same level of involvement between the MCU/Disney+ shows and the MCU, as we saw with the Mandalorian and Star Wars.
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