Final Episode EVER spoiler thread!

Yeah, I'd love to be able to do that, too. To be fair, even in many of the show's episodes that I actually really loved, there was usually something stupid that I was able to ignore, though, thanks to the rest of the ep being awesome. However, once we get to the point where I would have to break out some crazy parkour moves just to be able to get over all the flaws, the rest of the ep is hardly ever worth it.

Plus, to be completely honest, even if I ignore the stuff in the finale that was downright bad, or rushed or nonsensical, I'm having a really hard time right now to come up with anything I actually really liked. Like I said in my review, Deke interrupting Sousa to offer to stay behind was a good moment. The way he did it was funny, it was a good way to end his character arc and Deke really was the only one from the team who would have fit right into the time period.
BUT, there was also so much wrong with that scene! Like, really, what the hell was Sousa even going to do?? It was nice of him to volunteer, but, while he might not exactly be impressed by a lightbulb, he also doesn't really have any technical skills whatsoever. Also, why were the Shield extras totally ignored? I mean, they were fine with handing some potentially powerful items their families had been guarding for decades over to some complete strangers, you'd think they'd be willing to step in once those strangers offered to get rid of the alien invasion for them. And, yeah, the fact that nobody on the team except Mack, not even Nana, gave enough of a sh*t about Deke to actually say goodbye was really just the nail in the coffin for me. 

Aside from that, only one moment right at the end of the finale really had any emotional value for me, and that was when Skye and Coulson were the only ones left at the holo meeting. Skye and AC saying goodbye, until next time, right before Coulson flies off with Lola. Well, yeah, that was a good final touch to the episode right there. Most of the rest of it, though, I'm pretty sure I will have forgotten by next week.

Well, if that really was the case that the BBC project completely filled up Iain's schedule, then I don't understand why an actor that plays one the show’s original – and most beloved! – characters doesn't have a contract that prohibits him from taking on any projects that interfere with his main employment. As far as I know, that would be standard. Also, even if the writers are exempt from any blame regarding Fitz's available screentime, that doesn't excuse their terrible handling of what we did get to see of him. Like you said, it was needlessly complicated. I was really looking forward to having Fitz back on the show, but if I had known that most of his time would be spend on rushing everyone through a season's worth of exposition, maybe I could have actually managed to go without it.

Okay, so I skipped through that a bit, because these types of videos are mostly just BS imo. They either spend an hour talking about the most obvious clues, or they start reaching for the most far-fetched explanations for things that are usually just oversights by the real life people working on a project. 

That said, I would totally be on board with an Agents of S.W.O.R.D. series! Bring Skye and Sousa into the fold, have Hunter come on board (he did run the agency in the comics at some point, right? ), hop timelines, whatever. Awesome! 


However, somehow I think that the Triskelion still standing in the finale scene of AoS was more of a goof than anything else. At this point, I seriously would not put it past the people working on AoS to have been like: "Look, here we show the Triskelion still standing so as to prove that this is not the timeline where the Chronicoms basically destroyed all of Shield!" Meanwhile, they had entirely forgotten that the Triskelion having been destroyed during the Hydra uprising in The Winter Soldier is undeniably AoS canon. I mean, seriously, how else does this make sense? I get the concept of reality hopping, but it was stressed that they would return to their original timeline in the finale. That's where Fitz came from and that's where Piper and Flint were waiting for him and the others to return. And in that timeline it has been confirmed that the events of The Winter Soldier took place, including the destruction of the Triskelion. 

So unless the team somehow ended up in a different timeline, where a different Piper and Flint were waiting for them in the exact same location at the exact same moment, I call BS and say that the writers or whoever made that visual simply didn't think this part through. Just like AoS has a looong history of not thinking things through. 

One bit I said over on a youtube comment, but somehow forgot to mention here.  "Alya", the name of FitzSimmons' daughter is spelled differently, but sounds just the same as "Alia".  Alia (St. Alia of the Knife) was the sister of Paul Atredes in the Dune series.  Kyle MacLachlan, who played Daisy's father on AoS, played Paul Atredes in the Dune movie.  By a stretch of logic and wishful thinking, this means that FitzSimmons named their child after Daisy's aunt. 

Yeah I agree 100% though I've found that New Rockstars are generally better most of the time. Though even they sometimes mix in rumors and leaks etc. from future projects which I wish they wouldn't.

I think I agree with you about the Triskellion. Or at least I'm not sure it "proves" a non-Earth-199999 timeline. I had felt a long time ago that the AoS timeline was different - going back to the destroyer of worlds season. But even then, the Triskellion would have been lost. I mean, Winter Soldier is about as close to AoS canon as any MCU film since it's the one most closely tied in.

As for rebuilding it just like it was, I get that it's not guaranteed but who's to say that's not what happened?

But yeah, it does feel like it may have either been a pure goof or if it was "written in" on purpose it may mean something else. I doubt it would be intended as "whoops - maybe something still got changed" since Coulson and others would have noticed of course.

Anyway, I hope if nothing else we'll see Agents of SWORD a little more tied in. And if they don't literally use Daisy and Sousa on the show I hope they at least find a way to tie AoS to AoS (the other S).