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Post by haxemon on Feb 29, 2020 15:59:10 GMT
It sure feels like all the reruns on TV lately are hinting at something related to Picard.
Every rerun I've seen lately, Voyager, Enterprise and all in between has a Borg storyline.
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Post by ayanami on Mar 1, 2020 1:27:32 GMT
Have you seen Picard yet?
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Post by haxemon on Mar 2, 2020 13:39:56 GMT
Have you seen Picard yet? Yup. Not 100% sure how I feel about it just yet. I'm enjoying it but I'm also sort of waiting for something to bring it to a new level. It has the feel of one of those shows where you need to evaluate the entire season as a whole. |
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Post by ayanami on Mar 2, 2020 16:40:10 GMT
Have you seen Picard yet? Yup. Not 100% sure how I feel about it just yet. I'm enjoying it but I'm also sort of waiting for something to bring it to a new level. It has the feel of one of those shows where you need to evaluate the entire season as a whole. Okay, but if you've seen it... I don't really understand your initial post. I mean, obviously it could just be a coincidence that current re-runs happen to have Borg plotlines (after all, they were a recurring enemy during multiple shows) and/or you just being more aware of it in light of Picard. If it was a conscious choice by the networks, though, in what way would it be a hint? And at what? Or do you mean like a subtle hint at the fact that the Borg are front and centre in the show, that there's a Borg cube in the intro on which half the show's runtime is taking place and that they've brought back basically every Borg character that ever had a name in any of the Star Trek series? Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if they brought the Borg queen back as well eventually!
My point being, if there was actually the decision made to show re-runs of Borg episodes, it was most likely made with the intent to re-fresh people's memories and to introduce this old Star Trek nemesis to new viewers. That's not really hinting, though, is it?
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Post by haxemon on Mar 3, 2020 14:49:51 GMT
Okay, but if you've seen it... I don't really understand your initial post. I mean, obviously it could just be a coincidence that current re-runs happen to have Borg plotlines (after all, they were a recurring enemy during multiple shows) and/or you just being more aware of it in light of Picard. If it was a conscious choice by the networks, though, in what way would it be a hint? And at what? Or do you mean like a subtle hint at the fact that the Borg are front and centre in the show, that there's a Borg cube in the intro on which half the show's runtime is taking place and that they've brought back basically every Borg character that ever had a name in any of the Star Trek series? Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if they brought the Borg queen back as well eventually!
My point being, if there was actually the decision made to show re-runs of Borg episodes, it was most likely made with the intent to re-fresh people's memories and to introduce this old Star Trek nemesis to new viewers. That's not really hinting, though, is it?
Yeah maybe "hint" was the wrong term. Depending on who's "behind it all" in the Picard story line I'm just thinking maybe they're sort of reminding everyone. The episode that really made me think of this was a Voyager one where they introduced 7 of 9. The Voyager crew were forced to help the Borg with an enemy the Borg couldn't beat and in that episode they also came up with a way to defeat that enemy. Basically, and I'll spoiler tag this just in case I'm even close to right: I'm wondering if there really is a race of synths that are behind the Mars incident and it will turn out that the Romulans are actually being smart by trying to "find the rest" of them |
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Post by haxemon on Apr 23, 2020 12:00:09 GMT
Well I wasn't all the way wrong, but I was not really close to "right" either. Great series and great addition to the Trek lore, though I was left wishing it had been a tiny bit better when all was said and done.
I can't really put my finger on specifics though.
Very much enjoyed it and may ultimately re-watch. The "left wanting" feeling is probably more due to my own expectations than anything else.
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Post by ayanami on Apr 23, 2020 21:32:28 GMT
Well I wasn't all the way wrong, but I was not really close to "right" either. Great series and great addition to the Trek lore, though I was left wishing it had been a tiny bit better when all was said and done. I can't really put my finger on specifics though. Very much enjoyed it and may ultimately re-watch. The "left wanting" feeling is probably more due to my own expectations than anything else. I don't think it was just your expectations, though. I think the show's entire set-up, from the aged character(s), the short season order, the high production values and even to the incredibly "artsy" intro, all made the show initially seem much more "deep and meaningful" than it ultimately turned out to be. Picard started out really well, I think, and I really like the overall plot (despite the constant Mass Effect flashbacks I kept getting towards the end), but then they just seemed to throw in old Star Trek shenanigans - and even weirder stuff - just for the hell of it. The episode where they picked up Elnor was just plain dull. Also, Romulan samurai space elves? Really? The next one, the heist episode, was probably weirder than most things they ever did in any of the old Star Trek shows. And that's saying something! Good think Seven was there, so it didn't feel like an entire waste. Agnes kills Dr. Maddox and in the end everyone's pretty much okay with that? Ehhhh... Will shows up with the entire fricking Star Trek fleet just in the nick of time, stares down the Romulans, says "Alright, Picard, you got this!" and then everyone disappears again two seconds later?!? What the... I mean seriously... that was so bad... I can't even.  And then they kill off Picard only to turn him into a robot for what I assume was either meant to be some sort of poetic turn around, or... the set up to one enourmous shout-out to The Bicentennial Man when Picard ultimately does die. And last but not least: What the ever-living hell were they thinking with that final split-second introduction of a relationship between Seven of Nine and Raffi?? Where did that come from? Where was that even hinted at? So, eh, yeah, that were just a few gripes I have with the show of the top of my head. If I was willing to take more time on this, that list could probably be a loooot longer!  |
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Post by haxemon on Apr 24, 2020 12:35:52 GMT
Haha my thoughts exactly on nearly all those points. I was half expecting Tony Stark to show up at the end with a nuke that he knows just where to put.
But yeah, that completely random love sub-sub-plot was really, really weird. Not a hint of any of it earlier.
Anyway, still better than the worst Trek out there though if these were all new characters and didn't get points for familiar/loved characters it might not have been worth watching.
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I'll be spending next weekend with some family I like and trying to avoid any remotely controversial conversations with others that I spend the rest of the year avoiding 