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Post by haxemon on Jun 18, 2019 14:26:52 GMT
Has anyone floated the idea that "Sarge" is just Coulson paying his debt to the Rider? i.e. after he "dies" in Tahiti with May, the Rider took him and gave him the task of being Sarge?
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Post by Jemma Simmons on Jun 18, 2019 14:46:27 GMT
Has anyone floated the idea that "Sarge" is just Coulson paying his debt to the Rider? i.e. after he "dies" in Tahiti with May, the Rider took him and gave him the task of being Sarge? That’s an interesting theory! |
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Jun 18, 2019 14:51:01 GMT
I don't think that's it because I feel like Coulson would have told the team there was more and there have been no hints that there was more to his deal.
I mean, I like the idea, but I don't see it happening.
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Post by FreeKresge on Jun 18, 2019 15:08:03 GMT
I have not seen this theory, although I did notice that Sarge made a joke about his head catching fire. This is a very interesting theory, judging by how quickly the responses are coming in. At the end of the fourth season, it sounded like Coulson made a deal in order to be the Rider. In the fifth season, it sounded like Coulson was experiencing a mere side effect. Something like your theory would make what happened closer to an actual deal.
Any theory saying that Sarge is the Coulson that we have seen across the first five seasons of the show would have to explain how he got his left arm back. The Rider can heal its host. Is Sarge hosting the Rider or can the Rider also heal those working for it?
One problem with this theory is that the Rider has depended mostly on powers rather than technology, although there was a bond between the Rider and Robbie Reyes's car. Sarge and his crew appear to depend entirely on technology. Reyes already had his car, which was present when the Rider first possessed him. Where did Sarge's technology come from?
Also, there may be a timing issue if Sarge were involved with the destruction of Chronyca-2. However, unless the team somehow managed to condense a year into significantly less than 365 days, there are already plenty of timing issues this season.
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Post by koos on Jun 18, 2019 16:58:19 GMT
Has anyone floated the idea that "Sarge" is just Coulson paying his debt to the Rider? i.e. after he "dies" in Tahiti with May, the Rider took him and gave him the task of being Sarge? I have, but now I'm more entertaining the idea that the time traveling arc is going to be a part of it. Both is also possible. The point is that he uses tech to travel from one realm to the other. But the ghostrider wouldn't need it. And the time travel arc might provide for that tech. Also, I think that whatever has destroyed the Chronicom's homeworld is what Sarge is fighting. |
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Post by Hari Seldon on Jun 19, 2019 1:16:43 GMT
Any theory saying that Sarge is the Coulson that we have seen across the first five seasons of the show would have to explain how he got his left arm back. The Rider can heal its host. Is Sarge hosting the Rider or can the Rider also heal those working for it? The Rider did pretty much the opposite to Coulson - burning away the effects of the GH325 and killing him. We haven't seen any delays in the healing process with Robbie, I believe he said he was always ok the next morning. |
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Post by backroadjunkie on Jun 19, 2019 7:39:26 GMT
I thought this early on in Ep1 (and maybe Ep2), but rejected it. The mode of transport wasn't the same. We've seen Ghostrider/Dr. Strange use portals to move from one part of the multiverse to the other. Team Mad Max did not. They kind of oozed through, and can't get through physical barriers. Everything done by Team Mad Max was done with tech. Nothing supernatural about anything they've done. That doesn't sound very Ghostrider-y. Every indication is they're moving through space, not the multiverse. They've been on the hunt for years, and I can't reconcile the timeline. Sarge even said he was on planets traveling close to the speed of light, and that would cause time dilation relative to us, not to Sarge. So his hunting for a hundred years, would still be a hundred years to him.
That's why I thought it more plausible that Coulson at some point was duplicated and repurposed. Now that we're playing with the monoliths again, a duplicate Coulson could have been sent back in time to prevent/stop Pachakutiq. We're just seeing the... Endgame.
It will kill me if by the end of this, we find out Sarge is a product of SHIELD.
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Post by haxemon on Jun 19, 2019 11:38:13 GMT
Some great thoughts here guys. Certainly Coulson/Sarge isn't hosting the Rider or working directly with the Rider. But I was wondering mostly if "Sarge" was part of the deal in some way. Or maybe it relates to the Cosmic Rider.
Likely not of course, but would be a cool tie-in to previous seasons.
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Post by beren44 on Jun 27, 2019 10:26:38 GMT
OK, I'll chime in on this thread.. how about this... Maybe, The Superior was correct, and 'Coulson' is linked to all the Kree invasions, inhumans, Asgardian appearances, etc... Maybe he's the long lost little brother of Thor and Loki! (hey, it would explain away a lot of stuff!)
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