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Post by polgara on Jun 17, 2019 1:11:45 GMT
So is everyone else also assuming that the Chronicom's planet was destroyed by the parasitic alien birds? I feel as though our storylines are about to converge. I thought the planet was infested with Shrikes so Sarge's crew destroyed it. I think the Shrikes destroy the planet because Sarge and his crew fail to stop them.
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Post by backroadjunkie on Jun 17, 2019 6:11:42 GMT
Looks like we're going to play with monoliths again. At least we may get answers on where they came from and why they were created...
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Post by backroadjunkie on Jun 17, 2019 6:21:29 GMT
Controversial question- Did May euthanize Coulson by spiking his drink? I don't think so. I think that scene was specifically inserted as the final parallel (for this show) between May/Coulson and May/Sarge. I do wonder if Coulson had died in that scene, though.
I don't think May's conflict has really been fully addressed yet. The way May was asking what Sarge remembered, even a year ago, suggests she wants Sarge to be Coulson. I won't put it past May to be correct.
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Post by backroadjunkie on Jun 17, 2019 6:34:33 GMT
So is everyone else also assuming that the Chronicom's planet was destroyed by the parasitic alien birds? I feel as though our storylines are about to converge. That was my exact thought. The problem is everyone involved with the Chronicom's doesn't know the events transpiring on earth.
The problem with what Altarah wants to do, does not guarantee the outcome she desires. It also doesn't address what may happen to today's reality if they are successful in changing the past.
The bigger problem with all of this, is the galaxy is a big place. Having the Shrike destroy Chronicom then come to Earth seems to be an awfully big coincidence...
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Post by FreeKresge on Jun 18, 2019 2:47:55 GMT
As several of us suspected, it appears that both the earth-bound antagonists and the space antagonists are antivillains rather than being pure evil. I like this. However, there is a bit of stupidity in their actions. Atarah wondered what it would take to get Fitz to help the Chronicoms. Has she considered any of the following: - Not kidnapping Fitz?
- Not kidnapping his friends?
- Not threatening Fitz?
- Not threatening his friends?
- Pointing out that Enoch helped save earth, so it is only fair that Fitz save Chronyca-2?
- Simply asking nicely?
I assume that we will see a lot more of Atarah, and she may have some reasoning behind her actions. However, she appears to be stupid evil right now. I wonder if Daisy deserves some of the blame for this. Daisy advocated that the Zephyr crew maintain an aggressive posture in their search for Fitz. Could this have led Atarah to assume that only force or the threat of force would get what she wanted? What if, in alternate timelines in which there was no search for Fitz, Atarah simply contacted Enoch and asked for his and Fitz's help to create a time machine? The machine used in 2091 might not have been designed by the Fitz in that timeline but by an unfrozen Fitz using Chronicom resources and slipped into the Lighthouse for Deke's father to build. It also seems to me that Sarge might do well to try allying with local authorities as a first resort. I doubt that many would object to fighting alien zombie birds. His actions are a bit understandable as he seems willing to sacrifice a planet to further his aims. I can see local authorities objecting to that. This may be the time when he realizes that forsaking his worst-case-scenario option may lead to a much higher probability of actual success. Until the end of this episode, the earth-bound arcs and the space arcs have been so separate that the only thing connecting them was that some of the characters on earth and some of the characters in space knew each other at some point in the past. Otherwise, I would have to wonder why they were not in two separate shows. Like everyone else, I am going to assume that they will tie together eventually, probably by finding out that either the shrikes or Sarge's crew destroyed Chronyca-2 or that Atarah is the force behind the shrikes. The reveal that Chronicoms are controlling formerly Confederate ships raises new questions about a couple of encounters in the first episode. One of the ships supposedly resembled the ship that sliced Enoch's ship in two. Was it Confederate at the time or did the Chronicoms already take it? Was it really a Confederacy ship that fired on the Zephyr or was that also a Chronicom ship? I have also been wondering if Sarge and his crew are simple vigilantes, or if he reports to someone? Does either Enoch or Atarah know that Noah is dead? I noticed that a Clark Gregg character joked about his head catching fire. I hope the show realizes that this Fitz will be out of touch with everything that happened in the fifth season outside most of "Rewind." In particular, Simmons is wearing her wedding ring. This should create an awkward moment if Fitz notices before Simmons has a chance to explain.
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Post by FreeKresge on Jun 18, 2019 2:52:49 GMT
Controversial question- Did May euthanize Coulson by spiking his drink? May explicitly said that she did not kill Coulson. I suppose she could be lying, but Sarge was pretty good at reading May. Simmons in "The Real Deal" said, "At some point, sir, your heart will just stop beating." That is probably what happened if Coulson did die in that scene.
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Post by FreeKresge on Jun 18, 2019 3:58:09 GMT
Why was Deke in surgery? Did Mack beat him up? He was fine at the end of the last show... Deke was injured during the attack. Kahn suggested that Deke needed to see a doctor, but Deke did not think so. In yet another, this is a fine mess you got us into moment, Simmons makes another... poor decision, unless they had the foresight to figure out a way to be able to track Simmons. The only other option that Simmons could have taken would have been to call Atarah's bluff. That would have been very risky as it was not clear that Atarah was bluffing. They were outnumbered and trapped on unfamiliar territory. Simmons at least cut a deal that allowed Daisy, Piper, and Davis to get home safely with the Zephyr. We know that the two things that the Confederacy valued most from earth were gravitonium and powered people. This suggests that both are quite rare. Despite this, Daisy decided that the Zephyr crew should project force in its dealings with others. We saw her use her powers on the D'Rillian guards and in the Kitson casino. It is likely that these were not isolated instances. Other than the already mentioned Lady Sif, Elliot Randolph, Enoch, and Noah: - Vin-Tak was not that bad. He may have threatened Skye, but he was trying to undo the damage that the Kree have done.
- I cannot blame the D'Rillian caretaker in the first episode for his actions toward the Zephyr crew. The crew were the ones who were out of line.
- The Sivian engineers eventually came to appreciate what Fitz did for them, and, to be fair, Fitz's deception did endanger all of them from the admittedly terrible Viro.
- Pretorious Pryce was simply trying to enforce rules, and he tried to mediate between Malachi and the Zephyr crew.
- There were various people in the Kitson casino like the greeter and the blue-skinned dealer who simply did their jobs. The green-skinned dealer was fine until Fitz and Enoch were caught cheating. The dealer was even kind to Simmons ("Then maybe it's best you just go on home. This isn't a place for a nice girl like you.").
- Finally, an offbeat choice: It from Maveth. Early in the episode, Simmons was desperately searching for water. There was none in sight when the sandstorm hit. When the sandstorm cleared, she was by a pool of water. Most likely, either It moved Simmons to the water or It created the pool, saving Simmons's life. In fact, I have a headcanon that Will Daniels was Hive the entire time (explaining why It's powers on Maveth were completely different from Hive's powers on earth) with It being Hive's jailer. We only had Will/Hive's word that It was evil. All we (or Simmons) saw was It moving ominously. It tried to prevent Will/Hive from leaving Maveth, but It let Simmons escape.
On the other hand, Simmons did comment in season 5, "Really wish we could happen upon some non-slave-trading aliens."
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Post by polgara on Jun 19, 2019 4:25:29 GMT
So is everyone else also assuming that the Chronicom's planet was destroyed by the parasitic alien birds? I feel as though our storylines are about to converge. That was my exact thought. The problem is everyone involved with the Chronicom's doesn't know the events transpiring on earth. The problem with what Altarah wants to do, does not guarantee the outcome she desires. It also doesn't address what may happen to today's reality if they are successful in changing the past. The bigger problem with all of this, is the galaxy is a big place. Having the Shrike destroy Chronicom then come to Earth seems to be an awfully big coincidence...
I got the feeling that it had been awhile since Chronyca 2 had been destroyed. I'm not sure the Shrike came directly to Earth.
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Jun 26, 2019 14:47:48 GMT
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