|
|
Post by spade on Mar 19, 2017 3:01:49 GMT
Watched all 13 eps yesterday. Not DD quality but better than LC and JJ. Giving it an 8.5/10.
Great characters, great fights. Jones is ok as Danny, but the supporting, Claire, Joy and Ward are more interesting.
|
|
|
|
Post by Jemma Simmons on Mar 19, 2017 3:07:56 GMT
Watched all 13 eps yesterday. Not DD quality but better than LC and JJ. Giving it an 8.5/10. Great characters, great fights. Jones is ok as Danny, but the supporting, Claire, Joy and Ward are more interesting. Welcome to our board!  I agree... Jones was fine as Danny. He made the character likeable. The story is finally picking up the pace a bit. I'm trying to pace myself, but likely I'll finish all 13 episodes this weekend. I'm anxious to see where the story goes! |
|
|
|
Post by Jemma Simmons on Mar 19, 2017 22:42:17 GMT
Almost through the series. I definitely saw Colleen's betrayal coming. It was also very cool to hear the Avengers Chitauri incident mentioned multiple times and great little references and cameos to other shows. So far, this is a solid series! I wouldn't put it *quite* as high as Daredevil or Jessica Jones or Luke Cage, but it's so far been a solid 8/10. I likely rewatch at some point! |
|
|
|
Post by pingpongtung on Mar 20, 2017 5:18:42 GMT
I already finished entire season. Ha! Its a decent show. Not great like Daredevil but certainly better than Arrow. Well, that is not a "praise" anyone should be content with imo. Exactly. I have many grievances with it although I thoroughly enjoyed it, specially the performances of Colleen, Claire and Gao were top notch. At times dialogue was bad, Finn seemed off in a few scenes - not a convincing Iron Fist in my opinion, finale was anti climactic, fight scenes could have been a lot better etc etc. |
|
|
|
Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Mar 21, 2017 14:41:20 GMT
I haven't watched it yet.
My favorite AoS/Marvel Podcasters don't seem to have liked it too much and I tend to agree with their opinions on things.
|
|
|
|
Post by haxemon on Mar 22, 2017 21:08:11 GMT
Crushed this over two days (5 ep Friday, rest on Saturday). I rank it below DD and JJ but above LC. It is different though so like the first three shows I expect opinions to vary. Which I think was the goal. I would have done it a lot differently myself for sure but don't have any problems with the way they did it really. Put another way: Luke Cage had parts that were awesome but a few parts that I found poor or cringe-worthy. Ultimately the good far outweighed the bad for me. Iron Fist on the other hard had parts that were awesome and parts that were more "meh" than bad IMO. So it ranks above LC for me. Personally I would have liked a bit more mysticism or even flakiness. Not to the extent the cartoon version goes but in the early episodes I really liked how Danny is sort of spacey even. I think where the show sort of fell short was in that everyone seemed to be against him at some point. I think I would have rather he have a couple of true friends and some more clear-cut enemies with maybe one or two where you don't know or they change etc. I'm not sure how I feel about Claire being in so many fights as well. She's fine as a nurse or the odd time holding her own, but she seemed too "heroic" for me at times. Again, overall loved the show and lots of great performances. |
|
|
|
Post by DoTheMath on Mar 23, 2017 14:59:33 GMT
Ratings like this are so utterly baffling to me. 17% critics, 88% audience score; what the hell? Still haven't seen it, yet. Since it's been out for a week, I decided to do a comparison. | Daredevil S1 | Critics: 98% | Audience: 96% | | Jessica Jones S1 | Critics: 93% | Audience: 90% | | Daredevil S2 | Critics: 76%
| Audience: 95%
| Luke Cage S1
| Critics: 96% | Audience: 85% | Iron Fist S1
| Critics: 18%
| Audience: 83%
|
IMO, audience scores show a trend. DD in mid 90's, JJ dropping 5% to 90 and Luke dropping another 5% to 85; with IF only dropping 2% to 83 (TBF, IF started at 88 so it's possible it will drop more). Critics have rated DD, JJ and LC first seasons between 93 and 98 percent. DD S2 dropped to a 76% and IF rings in at only 18%. So it seems to me, that audiences still like what Marvel/Netflix is putting out there; with DD being the overall favorite and the other three being within 7% of each other. Critics, for some reason, seem to be trying to make a statement with their iron Fist reviews/ratings. I won't get into the why's and wherefores of it all, but will say that I think the critics have done/are doing the industry and their readers a great disservice. Reviews/ratings should be critical reviews of production value, acting, directing, cinematography, VFX, etc. etc. If they want to make a social statement, those should be reserved for editorials.
|
|
|
|
Post by nillindeiel on Mar 23, 2017 15:07:40 GMT
I really liked Iron Fist. I liked it better than JJ (which is my least fav. of the Netflix series so far - I don't flat out hate it or anything, it's just my least favorite), and I liked it a little bit more than Luke Cage. Still think I like the DD seasons the best, though.
|
|
|
|
Post by TommyWizard on Mar 25, 2017 0:12:55 GMT
Just finished Season 1 of Iron Fist, i liked it a lot!
I think it's fair to say it's not the best so far but i think it's my favourite!
|
|
|
|
Post by dractarashv2 on Mar 25, 2017 23:20:39 GMT
I liked it. It's perhaps the most flawed Marvel Netflix series yet, but somehow it appealed to me more than Jessica Jones and Luke Cage (which I do like).
Now from the trailers, I for sure thought this show was going to give Daredevil a run for its money in terms quality. Well, that certainly wasn't the case! I dug Finn as Danny, but I don't think he completely nailed the role of the Iron Fist. And the fight scenes... while entertaining, they were pretty underwhelming (a show like this deserved better). I also think they could have done a better job with showing Danny's past.
Overall, I found myself really interested in the show and by the end of it I wanted some more. By the way, for all the complains some people have about the hand's involvement in season 2 of Daredevil, I think Iron Fist did a good job in highlighting their purpose in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And lastly, damn I loved Jessica Henwick as Colleen!
|
|
|
|
Post by sigasahab on Apr 4, 2017 11:53:51 GMT
I just finished Iron Fist yesterday and really enjoyed it, but then I've enjoyed all the Marvel Netflix shows. Daredevil Season 2 was probably the one I enjoyed the least, finding it a bit heavy on the ninjas (and I really don't like characters like The Punisher, although he was handled well). Looking back, I think I probably enjoyed Jessica Jones the most even though it is at the bottom of many people's lists. Just shows we all have our separate tastes - none of the four shows is probably objectively better than the others.
I can't help thinking Daredevil is going to stick out like a sore thumb in The Defenders being the only one in costume (or having to pretend to be completely blind when not in costume).
|
|
|
|
Post by ayanami on Apr 4, 2017 21:07:29 GMT
Now that I've finished Black Sails, I finally have to time to start Iron Fist. I'm on episode two now, and so far I really like it. Got to say, though, Danny is kind of an idiot. I mean, if I were trying to convince people I'm not crazy, I would probably skip the part about having spent the last fifteen years among warrior monks in a monastery in another dimension, that can only be accessed every fifteen years. And that I have a superpower that I conveniently can't prove I have right now. I mean... come on, dude! Also, while there haven't been any major fight scenes yet, I think I can already agree that the quality in that department could be better. Obviously, movie/TV fights are choreographed, but what I've seen so far actally looked choreographed, and that's a problem! Still, if that's the only complaint I'm gonna have at the end of this, that's something I can easily live with. |
|
|
|
Post by TommyWizard on Apr 4, 2017 23:38:18 GMT
It gets a little better on that department after a few episodes.
|
|
|
|
Post by ayanami on Apr 10, 2017 1:00:39 GMT
Watched all 13 eps yesterday. Not DD quality but better than LC and JJ. Giving it an 8.5/10. Great characters, great fights. Jones is ok as Danny, but the supporting, Claire, Joy and Ward are more interesting. Couldn't agree more with everything you said! Danny was nice and I was rooting for him, but at the same time I found myself more looking forward to Ward's, Joy's and Harold's part of the story than to his. Almost through the series. I definitely saw Colleen's betrayal coming. It was also very cool to hear the Avengers Chitauri incident mentioned multiple times and great little references and cameos to other shows. So far, this is a solid series! I wouldn't put it *quite* as high as Daredevil or Jessica Jones or Luke Cage, but it's so far been a solid 8/10. I likely rewatch at some point! Honestly, I'm getting pretty sick at the Netflix' shows' insistence on not mentioning any of the Avengers stuff by name. I know they're kinda trying to distance themselves from the whole comic book vibe, but this is getting ridiculous! It's never "aliens attacking New York", no, it's "the incident". It's also not "The Hulk", it's "the green guy". What is this, Harry Potter, where everyone just says "You-Know-Who", because they're too scared to say "Voldemort"? |
|
|
|
Post by haxemon on Jul 17, 2017 15:01:53 GMT
Well the Voldemort comparison isn't really fitting IMO. Not using his name is a story point in the HP books. The Netflix shows are not alone in using vague references to the Avengers. Heck IM3 includes "the guy with the hammer". I'm not saying I wouldn't love more direct mentions, but I think Marvel is being very (too?) cautious to give any casual viewers the impression that anything in the MCU is "required viewing". So they try to write things in a way that they think is easier for people to get the idea or just dismiss and move on.
Watching MCU stuff with friends or family that don't follow the MCU directly I've seen both sides of this. Sometimes they simply accept "okay, so some incident happened and people are on edge" and other times I'm asked to pause the show/film and spend 20 minutes explaining the background.
So all that to say I'm not sure Marvel's approach is "correct", but I understand what they're trying to do. The money that keeps the MCU running at full steam *has* to include a very, very large number of casual fans who don't hesitate to see the films thinking "oh well I don't watch that TV show so I can't really watch the film". So if there's any risk in alienating (see what I did there?) some of the popcorn munchers who fund these films, they're not going to risk it.
If I were as rich as Tony Stark I'd just give Marvel the money to make the films and shows for pure fans only. Write everything in one big room of writers and produce it all on one massive lot. Have Coulson in nearly every film where it makes sense, have Hawkeye and Widow cameo on AoS periodically, have Daredevil and Spider-Man team-up etc. etc.
Sadly, my attempts at a mini arc reactor haven't worked out ... yet.
|
|
