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Post by Black Widow on Jul 19, 2018 0:36:16 GMT
Basically when I was downloading an update to an MMO I played, my laptop kinda crashed on me and I was forced to reset my comp to Windows 8, an unsupported Windows 8 at that. 
I tried and I tried to update back to Windows 10 using Media creation tools and nothing. I even tried to update to Windows 8.1...again, nothing. After over 100 restarts and a few Blue screens of death, I bought this:
Not a high performance rig or whatnot, but I am broke. LOL
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Post by Jemma Simmons on Jul 19, 2018 1:32:42 GMT
Basically when I was downloading an update to an MMO I played, my laptop kinda crashed on me and I was forced to reset my comp to Windows 8, an unsupported Windows 8 at that. I tried and I tried to update back to Windows 10 using Media creation tools and nothing. I even tried to update to Windows 8.1...again, nothing. After over 100 restarts and a few Blue screens of death, I bought this: Not a high performance rig or whatnot, but I am broke. LOL
That's pretty nice! I've been looking at new towers, too. My laptop still works just fine, but I thought a tower would be better for photo/video editing and whatnot. Funny story, I had an HP laptop that I loved and was a couple years old. It started giving me random errors and the fan sounded funny, so I figured out what I wanted to replace it. Sure enough, after a few days of that, I had the HP on and there was a pop. It would start, but not go through the entire boot. I left it alone for a week and tried again... nothing. Like a year later, I was cleaning things out and thought I'd give it a try and the sucker booted right up! I use it as a travel spare. Its name is Lazarus.  |
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Post by Black Widow on Jul 19, 2018 7:16:35 GMT
Basically when I was downloading an update to an MMO I played, my laptop kinda crashed on me and I was forced to reset my comp to Windows 8, an unsupported Windows 8 at that. I tried and I tried to update back to Windows 10 using Media creation tools and nothing. I even tried to update to Windows 8.1...again, nothing. After over 100 restarts and a few Blue screens of death, I bought this: Not a high performance rig or whatnot, but I am broke. LOL
That's pretty nice! I've been looking at new towers, too. My laptop still works just fine, but I thought a tower would be better for photo/video editing and whatnot. Funny story, I had an HP laptop that I loved and was a couple years old. It started giving me random errors and the fan sounded funny, so I figured out what I wanted to replace it. Sure enough, after a few days of that, I had the HP on and there was a pop. It would start, but not go through the entire boot. I left it alone for a week and tried again... nothing. Like a year later, I was cleaning things out and thought I'd give it a try and the sucker booted right up! I use it as a travel spare. Its name is Lazarus. TY and yeah, you should definitely get a tower. It will give you some room for future expansion. If video editing is a job, make sure it can take the workload and have plenty of harddrive space if you're making 1080p or 4k videos for those takes up a lot of drive space. If it's for a hobby, something like mine would be a good one. If you're not the type who builds their own rig, get it from a store but make sure you get some kind of help if you don't know what you're looking for.
Oh my laptop still "kind of" works. But I have to restart it a lot...even reset it. Though considering I got it in 2012/2013, it's amazing that it lasted as long as it did. I hope Lazarus treats you better than mine treated me.  |
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Post by Hari Seldon on Jul 19, 2018 15:41:26 GMT
Basically when I was downloading an update to an MMO I played, my laptop kinda crashed on me and I was forced to reset my comp to Windows 8, an unsupported Windows 8 at that.
I tried and I tried to update back to Windows 10 using Media creation tools and nothing. I even tried to update to Windows 8.1...again, nothing. After over 100 restarts and a few Blue screens of death, I bought this:
Not a high performance rig or whatnot, but I am broke. LOL
I've had the Windows 10 updates kill my desktop twice. Fortunately I didn't give up easily and have resurrected it both times. Unfortunately both of those resurrections resulted in my losing all installed programs, but it kept all documents and logins. My dad was a bit luckier, the update killed it once, but when I went over there I was able to recover it completely with nothing lost. Basically when the problems came, there's a secret repair menu - boot the computer then hit the power button as soon as the Windows logo appears, repeat, then on the third time it goes to the menu - that can attempt repair, revert to a previous reset point, or reinstall. With my dad's I was able to revert to the previous version, but on mine I had to use the option to reinstall but save data files. |
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Post by ayanami on Jul 19, 2018 16:18:36 GMT
I haven't upgraded any of my PC parts in years, so much of that's better than what I'm currently running. I have an SSD drive for my operating system, though. That's really worth it. Plus a separate graphics card.
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Post by Black Widow on Jul 19, 2018 20:03:28 GMT
Basically when I was downloading an update to an MMO I played, my laptop kinda crashed on me and I was forced to reset my comp to Windows 8, an unsupported Windows 8 at that.
I tried and I tried to update back to Windows 10 using Media creation tools and nothing. I even tried to update to Windows 8.1...again, nothing. After over 100 restarts and a few Blue screens of death, I bought this:
Not a high performance rig or whatnot, but I am broke. LOL
I've had the Windows 10 updates kill my desktop twice. Fortunately I didn't give up easily and have resurrected it both times. Unfortunately both of those resurrections resulted in my losing all installed programs, but it kept all documents and logins. My dad was a bit luckier, the update killed it once, but when I went over there I was able to recover it completely with nothing lost. Basically when the problems came, there's a secret repair menu - boot the computer then hit the power button as soon as the Windows logo appears, repeat, then on the third time it goes to the menu - that can attempt repair, revert to a previous reset point, or reinstall. With my dad's I was able to revert to the previous version, but on mine I had to use the option to reinstall but save data files. You seemed to have been more fortunate than me. I was trying to reinstall Windows 10 into my laptop and it wouldn't allow it. It would first attempt to update, then it would go to restore previous version screen. It was frustrating. |
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Post by Black Widow on Jul 19, 2018 20:05:36 GMT
I haven't upgraded any of my PC parts in years, so much of that's better than what I'm currently running. I have an SSD drive for my operating system, though. That's really worth it. Plus a separate graphics card. I wish I can afford to put in an SSD in my new comp. Though at least my new comp has 2TB of storage where as my old laptop has 1TB. I need to get a SATA to PCI cord for my graphics card, which I will get sometime next week when I have money again. |
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Post by Jemma Simmons on Jul 19, 2018 20:23:14 GMT
I haven't upgraded any of my PC parts in years, so much of that's better than what I'm currently running. I have an SSD drive for my operating system, though. That's really worth it. Plus a separate graphics card. I wish I can afford to put in an SSD in my new comp. Though at least my new comp has 2TB of storage where as my old laptop has 1TB. I need to get a SATA to PCI cord for my graphics card, which I will get sometime next week when I have money again. It's always exciting to get a new toy! Hope all the card swapping and set-up goes smoothly! I've done some video and sound card adding, as well as adding some memory sticks in my very old desktop that won't stay booted for more than a few hours at a stretch. (Yeah, it's ancient. It's still running Win XP. Don't judge.)  Hope all of that goes smoothly for you! |
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Post by DoTheMath on Jul 20, 2018 0:39:44 GMT
I've had the Windows 10 updates kill my desktop twice. Fortunately I didn't give up easily and have resurrected it both times. Unfortunately both of those resurrections resulted in my losing all installed programs, but it kept all documents and logins. My dad was a bit luckier, the update killed it once, but when I went over there I was able to recover it completely with nothing lost. Basically when the problems came, there's a secret repair menu - boot the computer then hit the power button as soon as the Windows logo appears, repeat, then on the third time it goes to the menu - that can attempt repair, revert to a previous reset point, or reinstall. With my dad's I was able to revert to the previous version, but on mine I had to use the option to reinstall but save data files. You seemed to have been more fortunate than me. I was trying to reinstall Windows 10 into my laptop and it wouldn't allow it. It would first attempt to update, then it would go to restore previous version screen. It was frustrating. The two most recent Windows 10 updates are requiring older machines to update firmware and some to update bios. If you do get booted up, I recommend checking for those updates before doing anything else if possible. These last two updates are a bitch on older machines, especially those born as Windows 7 machines then upgraded to Windows 10. Good luck |
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Post by DoTheMath on Jul 20, 2018 0:42:42 GMT
Basically when I was downloading an update to an MMO I played, my laptop kinda crashed on me and I was forced to reset my comp to Windows 8, an unsupported Windows 8 at that.
I tried and I tried to update back to Windows 10 using Media creation tools and nothing. I even tried to update to Windows 8.1...again, nothing. After over 100 restarts and a few Blue screens of death, I bought this:
Not a high performance rig or whatnot, but I am broke. LOL
I've had the Windows 10 updates kill my desktop twice. Fortunately I didn't give up easily and have resurrected it both times. Unfortunately both of those resurrections resulted in my losing all installed programs, but it kept all documents and logins. My dad was a bit luckier, the update killed it once, but when I went over there I was able to recover it completely with nothing lost. Basically when the problems came, there's a secret repair menu - boot the computer then hit the power button as soon as the Windows logo appears, repeat, then on the third time it goes to the menu - that can attempt repair, revert to a previous reset point, or reinstall. With my dad's I was able to revert to the previous version, but on mine I had to use the option to reinstall but save data files. If it happens again to either you or your dad...... once you get into auto repair, navigate to command prompt and try running chkdsk on the volume that holds your windows files. I've had some success with that getting the machine to boot up. |
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Post by beren44 on Sept 27, 2018 3:45:17 GMT
Well, I didn't exactly get a new one, but wow does it feel like it! The refurbished lappy I bought a year ago, from Discount Electronics, which I recommended highly to caseyrook AKA Mechelle , had a catastrophic hard disk failure last sunday. I would still recommend them though, I have had great luck over the last decade and a half with them.
The good side? I just upgraded from a 3 250 gig HDD to a 500 gig SSD... completely clean fresh install of win7pro with absolutely no bloatware whatsoever. Yeah, its gonna be a pain to reload the software I like, but HOLY MOLY! what a difference! Next step, bump up from 4 gig to 8 gig of RAM. Hoping I can use this one for a long long time now!
For the budget minded, the prices just lowered on SSD's. You can get a Western Digital 500 gig for $50 now..just google it.
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Post by beren44 on Sept 27, 2018 4:35:50 GMT
I wish I can afford to put in an SSD in my new comp. Though at least my new comp has 2TB of storage where as my old laptop has 1TB. I need to get a SATA to PCI cord for my graphics card, which I will get sometime next week when I have money again. It's always exciting to get a new toy! Hope all the card swapping and set-up goes smoothly! I've done some video and sound card adding, as well as adding some memory sticks in my very old desktop that won't stay booted for more than a few hours at a stretch. (Yeah, it's ancient. It's still running Win XP. Don't judge.) Hope all of that goes smoothly for you! I would kiss someone at Microsoft if they would just still support WinXP. its still the best operating system they ever developed. I have had nothing but headaches with 7,8, and 10, on every machine I have dealt with.
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Post by DoTheMath on Sept 28, 2018 0:18:06 GMT
Basically when I was downloading an update to an MMO I played, my laptop kinda crashed on me and I was forced to reset my comp to Windows 8, an unsupported Windows 8 at that.
I tried and I tried to update back to Windows 10 using Media creation tools and nothing. I even tried to update to Windows 8.1...again, nothing. After over 100 restarts and a few Blue screens of death, I bought this:
Not a high performance rig or whatnot, but I am broke. LOL
Windows 8 has an anomaly that is a real pain. "n order to upgrade"from Windows 8, Windows 8 has to be fully updated before it can upgrade to 8.1 (applies to 10 as well). Going from factory/system reset to fully updated Windows 8 can take days...... We have a 1 gig connection at work and it has taken Windows 8 literally DAYS to fully update.
Black Widow Did you try making a bootable thumb drive with the media creation tool and use that for a fresh install, in lieu of an upgrade? Might be your best, or only, shot at a good Windows 10 load. If you do get 10 on it, check your firmware. Many older machines are requiring new drivers and firmware to work with Windows 10's latest updates (even some 7 machines are getting firware updates/upgrades for Windows 7 updates). Be sure to check your current versions, to include BIOS, and download them to a thumb drive in case the newer drives don't work. It's a bitch to keep legacy hardware current with some of these updates.
Heads-up everybody: The next new build will start releasing in Oct and it's a bugger bear. Make sure you have at least 20 -30 gig of space on your system drive so it can install without breaking your machine. Rumor has it, Microsoft knows it's gonna break a lot of machines. They won't say how or why or what machines, but the consensus is that legacy machines are going to continue to have problems keeping up with 10 and may "brick" during these build upgrades.
If anyone is running 10 on a machine that was born a 7 machine and wants to revert back with a fresh install, I have a good (legal) iso I'll be happy to share. Just make sure you still have a legible product key on your machine.
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Oct 2, 2018 15:03:20 GMT
Basically when I was downloading an update to an MMO I played, my laptop kinda crashed on me and I was forced to reset my comp to Windows 8, an unsupported Windows 8 at that.
I tried and I tried to update back to Windows 10 using Media creation tools and nothing. I even tried to update to Windows 8.1...again, nothing. After over 100 restarts and a few Blue screens of death, I bought this:
Not a high performance rig or whatnot, but I am broke. LOL
Windows 8 has an anomaly that is a real pain. "n order to upgrade"from Windows 8, Windows 8 has to be fully updated before it can upgrade to 8.1 (applies to 10 as well). Going from factory/system reset to fully updated Windows 8 can take days...... We have a 1 gig connection at work and it has taken Windows 8 literally DAYS to fully update.
Black Widow Did you try making a bootable thumb drive with the media creation tool and use that for a fresh install, in lieu of an upgrade? Might be your best, or only, shot at a good Windows 10 load. If you do get 10 on it, check your firmware. Many older machines are requiring new drivers and firmware to work with Windows 10's latest updates (even some 7 machines are getting firware updates/upgrades for Windows 7 updates). Be sure to check your current versions, to include BIOS, and download them to a thumb drive in case the newer drives don't work. It's a bitch to keep legacy hardware current with some of these updates.
Heads-up everybody: The next new build will start releasing in Oct and it's a bugger bear. Make sure you have at least 20 -30 gig of space on your system drive so it can install without breaking your machine. Rumor has it, Microsoft knows it's gonna break a lot of machines. They won't say how or why or what machines, but the consensus is that legacy machines are going to continue to have problems keeping up with 10 and may "brick" during these build upgrades.
If anyone is running 10 on a machine that was born a 7 machine and wants to revert back with a fresh install, I have a good (legal) iso I'll be happy to share. Just make sure you still have a legible product key on your machine.
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Post by DoTheMath on Oct 2, 2018 21:38:22 GMT
Windows 8 has an anomaly that is a real pain. "n order to upgrade"from Windows 8, Windows 8 has to be fully updated before it can upgrade to 8.1 (applies to 10 as well). Going from factory/system reset to fully updated Windows 8 can take days...... We have a 1 gig connection at work and it has taken Windows 8 literally DAYS to fully update.
Black Widow Did you try making a bootable thumb drive with the media creation tool and use that for a fresh install, in lieu of an upgrade? Might be your best, or only, shot at a good Windows 10 load. If you do get 10 on it, check your firmware. Many older machines are requiring new drivers and firmware to work with Windows 10's latest updates (even some 7 machines are getting firware updates/upgrades for Windows 7 updates). Be sure to check your current versions, to include BIOS, and download them to a thumb drive in case the newer drives don't work. It's a bitch to keep legacy hardware current with some of these updates.
Heads-up everybody: The next new build will start releasing in Oct and it's a bugger bear. Make sure you have at least 20 -30 gig of space on your system drive so it can install without breaking your machine. Rumor has it, Microsoft knows it's gonna break a lot of machines. They won't say how or why or what machines, but the consensus is that legacy machines are going to continue to have problems keeping up with 10 and may "brick" during these build upgrades.
If anyone is running 10 on a machine that was born a 7 machine and wants to revert back with a fresh install, I have a good (legal) iso I'll be happy to share. Just make sure you still have a legible product key on your machine.
What are legacy machines? The term has evolved over the years. Some consider "legacy" machines to be computers that are 5 (or more) years old. Some would put the cut-off at ten years. It's been my experience with Windows 10, that any machine that was born with Windows 7 (or earlier version), is a legacy machine............ I also consider Windows 8 and 8.1 to be legacy machines (primarily because I HATE 8 and 8.1) because computers born with those operating systems are starting to show signs of not being supported by their manufacturers. So yeah, the term is ambiguous. |
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Hope all of that goes smoothly for you! 
