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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Apr 12, 2018 1:37:30 GMT
Loved the episode! Glad to see Talbot up and about again. Plus, even though I still have a slight grudge about Izzy and Idaho, I actually do like Creel as one of the good guys, so I was happy to see him help out the team. Him acting as a electric conductor to bring Coulson back was one of the coolest things they've done on the show recently, I must say. For a second there I thought that Ruby was actually gonne kill him at the end of the episode, thank goodness for that billiard cue! Yeah, not a big fan of the whole "invincible" talk. I mean, really, if they all really firmly believed the the future CAN NOT be changed, than in their position I would start outfitting my bunk in the lighthouse. What is the point of trying to save the world, anyway, right? Super crazy move by Jemma, that whole almost-drinking-acid scene. I was glad, though, that Fitz wasn't aware of their plan. I don't think he would have been on board, even on the premise of the whole thing being staged. And obviously never if he had known what Jemma was going to do. Crazy, crazy person! I have to admit, this darker side of Jemma has always been the reason why she is pretty much my least favourite character of the original team members. It was at the end of episode 1x20, where she and Fitz were sitting at that motel pool, discussing Ward's/ Hydra's betrayal when the difference between her and Fitz's view of the world really became apparent for the first time, and she's just kept becoming more and more ruthless ever since. It's like she and this new Fitz are now a better fit than ever. *sigh* Thanks to DoTheMath btw for the info that the van scene with Raina and Quinn was a deleted scene. It did baffle me for a moment how they both still looked exactly the same as they had done back then! Would it be to much to ask, though, to get David Conrad to guest star again?! Pretty please!!  All that talk about Coulson being the one who "puts all the pieces together" suddenly makes me wonder if he might end up being infused with the gravitonium. Just putting that thought out there... Me: *reads your last paragraph* Me: *screams* |
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Post by beren44 on Apr 12, 2018 2:48:51 GMT
Re: Jemma and the acid.
Well, the writers have showed no lack of throwing science out the window this season. The acid was plenty strong, as evidenced by its rapid reaction to the metal table. I remember once in 10th grade chemistry accidentally passing my nose a bit too close over a beaker of acid, and WOW..you only do THAT once, I promise.
She would have never gotten it into her mouth in the first place. And as someone already noted, she would have been screaming (or frothing, convulsing, or SOMETHING) long before it hit her stomach.
Not even gonna go into the whole fear dimension thing, and there are a couple more science-ey things they have bungled royally, can't think what they are at the moment without reviewing, but I do have a question..
Why is May not in charge in lieu of Daisy, and when exactly did Daisy get the appointed duty? I skimmed back over the last 3 episodes, and did not see anywhere when Coulson put her in charge.
And the burning question...Is Von Strucker gonna get some from Ruby, like he's hoping?
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Post by FreeKresge on Apr 12, 2018 4:41:44 GMT
Re: Jemma and the acid. Well, the writers have showed no lack of throwing science out the window this season. The acid was plenty strong, as evidenced by its rapid reaction to the metal table. I remember once in 10th grade chemistry accidentally passing my nose a bit too close over a beaker of acid, and WOW..you only do THAT once, I promise. She would have never gotten it into her mouth in the first place. And as someone already noted, she would have been screaming (or frothing, convulsing, or SOMETHING) long before it hit her stomach. Not even gonna go into the whole fear dimension thing, and there are a couple more science-ey things they have bungled royally, can't think what they are at the moment without reviewing, but I do have a question.. Why is May not in charge in lieu of Daisy, and when exactly did Daisy get the appointed duty? I skimmed back over the last 3 episodes, and did not see anywhere when Coulson put her in charge. And the burning question...Is Von Strucker gonna get some from Ruby, like he's hoping? Regarding acid, Simmons did not really drink acid, so it is simply a matter of Mack (and Fitz) not realizing the things you and I have talked about. The reaction with the metal table did not occur until after Mackwas shoved into Fitz's cell, so, at the moment, they had only Simmons's word on how strong it was. What Mack and Fitz should have realized if they were not panicking is that the stomach is made to hold acid. Anything that would be strong enough to damage Simmons's stomach would have done worse to her mouth and esophagus. I hate the whole idea of a fear dimension as well. In "The Real Deal," Coulson said that he wanted Daisy to be his successor, with May seeming to approve. I assume that this is why Daisy is now in charge. |
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Post by beren44 on Apr 12, 2018 5:57:00 GMT
Re: Jemma and the acid. Well, the writers have showed no lack of throwing science out the window this season. The acid was plenty strong, as evidenced by its rapid reaction to the metal table. I remember once in 10th grade chemistry accidentally passing my nose a bit too close over a beaker of acid, and WOW..you only do THAT once, I promise. She would have never gotten it into her mouth in the first place. And as someone already noted, she would have been screaming (or frothing, convulsing, or SOMETHING) long before it hit her stomach. Not even gonna go into the whole fear dimension thing, and there are a couple more science-ey things they have bungled royally, can't think what they are at the moment without reviewing, but I do have a question.. Why is May not in charge in lieu of Daisy, and when exactly did Daisy get the appointed duty? I skimmed back over the last 3 episodes, and did not see anywhere when Coulson put her in charge. And the burning question...Is Von Strucker gonna get some from Ruby, like he's hoping? so it is simply a matter of Mack (and Fitz) not realizing the things you and I have talked about. The reaction with the metal table did not occur until after Mackwas shoved into Fitz's cell, so, at the moment, they had only Simmons's word on how strong it was. What Mack and Fitz should have realized if they were not panicking is that the stomach is made to hold acid. Anything that would be strong enough to damage Simmons's stomach would have done worse to her mouth and esophagus. I hate the whole idea of a fear dimension as well. In "The Real Deal," Coulson said that he wanted Daisy to be his successor, with May seeming to approve. I assume that this is why Daisy is now in charge. I realize this. What I was pointing out is, she could not have even gotten it near her nose, much less in her mouth, without knowing it was just water. Also, the stomach is NOT going to accept a strong acid. |
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Apr 12, 2018 11:41:23 GMT
Re: Jemma and the acid. Well, the writers have showed no lack of throwing science out the window this season. The acid was plenty strong, as evidenced by its rapid reaction to the metal table. I remember once in 10th grade chemistry accidentally passing my nose a bit too close over a beaker of acid, and WOW..you only do THAT once, I promise. She would have never gotten it into her mouth in the first place. And as someone already noted, she would have been screaming (or frothing, convulsing, or SOMETHING) long before it hit her stomach. Not even gonna go into the whole fear dimension thing, and there are a couple more science-ey things they have bungled royally, can't think what they are at the moment without reviewing, but I do have a question.. Why is May not in charge in lieu of Daisy, and when exactly did Daisy get the appointed duty? I skimmed back over the last 3 episodes, and did not see anywhere when Coulson put her in charge. And the burning question...Is Von Strucker gonna get some from Ruby, like he's hoping? Beren, the lead character came back from the dead because of alien DNA. Because of that, I've never held the show accountable for it's science. Re: Daisy's leadership. Why's Daisy in charge instead of May? I think it's because May gave the job to her since it's what Coulson would have wanted. I would argue May did it also because May thought she couldn't be objective...but that can't be it because neither could Daisy and Mack would have been a better choice in that case. |
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Post by ayanami on Apr 12, 2018 13:18:51 GMT
Not really a fan of Director Skye, either. Especially considering that back in S2, Coulson specifically wanted May to take charge of Shield should he go crazy from the alien writing. I'll admit that Skye was still a relative newbie at the time and thus hardly a candidate, but I nevertheless think it's kind of a joke to ignore a Shield veteran like May in favour of Skye, even if she's Coulson's favourite protégé. Plus, now that May is injured, it would be a perfect time for her to step back from the field missions and focus on leading. Totally forgot to comment on Talbot's 'inside voice' earlier btw. That guy is just amazing!  |
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Apr 12, 2018 13:59:17 GMT
Not really a fan of Director Skye, either. Especially considering that back in S2, Coulson specifically wanted May to take charge of Shield should he go crazy from the alien writing. I'll admit that Skye was still a relative newbie at the time and thus hardly a candidate, but I nevertheless think it's kind of a joke to ignore a Shield veteran like May in favour of Skye, even if she's Coulson's favourite protégé. Plus, now that May is injured, it would be a perfect time for her to step back from the field missions and focus on leading. Totally forgot to comment on Talbot's 'inside voice' earlier btw. That guy is just amazing! If you think about it, *Coulson* didn't put Daisy in charge. He didn't even speak to Daisy at all in 5x14 when he walked into a trap...I mean got "captured". And he didn't tell May, "Daisy's leading the team now" (that we saw anyway). All he agreed with May is that he needed to go with Hale. Nothing was said about who should be in charge. May could have put herself in charge, but she didn't so Daisy being in charge is on HER. Why didn't May take the lead? I honestly think it's because she let Coulson go with Hale thinking that he *wouldn't* come back, or if he does, he'll be on his deathbed, so she gave Daisy the lead because that was what *Coulson* had said he wanted. I think that, because if May did it because she thought she couldn't be objective, *Mack* would have been the better candidate. After all, he has Director-credit. And yeah, that "This is my inside voice" line is great. I've always loved Talbot and Coulson's Odd-Couple relationship, and my favorite part of the episode was Coulson having to hold onto Talbot in some way to keep him on track. It's funny, but at the same it's really sad, and that's what makes it painfully enjoyable. |
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Post by ayanami on Apr 12, 2018 17:06:14 GMT
Just read through last episode's live chat and I just knew there was still one thing I had meant to comment on. The snowy area where Coulson and Talbot showed up in was exactly the set they used to film the outside of the Providence base on! Now we just need Coulson to through something in frustration so the automatic cannon gets activated and a Koenig shows up! I like the idea of this actually being the same spot, due to Coulson still knowing the coordinates, but I honestly doubt that the writers would come up with that. Still, with all those S1 call-backs recently, I guess nothing is impossible. |
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Post by Hari Seldon on Apr 12, 2018 17:08:15 GMT
Not really a fan of Director Skye, either. Especially considering that back in S2, Coulson specifically wanted May to take charge of Shield should he go crazy from the alien writing. I'll admit that Skye was still a relative newbie at the time and thus hardly a candidate, but I nevertheless think it's kind of a joke to ignore a Shield veteran like May in favour of Skye, even if she's Coulson's favourite protégé. Plus, now that May is injured, it would be a perfect time for her to step back from the field missions and focus on leading. Totally forgot to comment on Talbot's 'inside voice' earlier btw. That guy is just amazing! If you think about it, *Coulson* didn't put Daisy in charge. He didn't even speak to Daisy at all in 5x14 when he walked into a trap...I mean got "captured". And he didn't tell May, "Daisy's leading the team now" (that we saw anyway). All he agreed with May is that he needed to go with Hale. Nothing was said about who should be in charge. May could have put herself in charge, but she didn't so Daisy being in charge is on HER. Why didn't May take the lead? I honestly think it's because she let Coulson go with Hale thinking that he *wouldn't* come back, or if he does, he'll be on his deathbed, so she gave Daisy the lead because that was what *Coulson* had said he wanted. I think that, because if May did it because she thought she couldn't be objective, *Mack* would have been the better candidate. After all, he has Director-credit. And yeah, that "This is my inside voice" line is great. I've always loved Talbot and Coulson's Odd-Couple relationship, and my favorite part of the episode was Coulson having to hold onto Talbot in some way to keep him on track. It's funny, but at the same it's really sad, and that's what makes it painfully enjoyable. No. Jemma Simmons should have been made Director. She was second in command under Mace and Coulson directly replaced Mace, so she should retain her rank and be next in line. |
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Apr 12, 2018 17:20:51 GMT
Just read through last episode's live chat and I just knew there was still one thing I had meant to comment on. The snowy area where Coulson and Talbot showed up in was exactly the set they used to film the outside of the Providence base on! Not we just need Coulson to through something in frustration so the automatic cannon gets activated and a Koenig shows up! I like the idea of this actually being the same spot, due to Coulson still knowing the coordinates, but I honestly doubt that the writers would come up with that. Still, with all those S1 call-backs recently, I guess nothing is impossible. Does Coulson even have a badge to throw in frustration? |
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Apr 12, 2018 17:22:34 GMT
If you think about it, *Coulson* didn't put Daisy in charge. He didn't even speak to Daisy at all in 5x14 when he walked into a trap...I mean got "captured". And he didn't tell May, "Daisy's leading the team now" (that we saw anyway). All he agreed with May is that he needed to go with Hale. Nothing was said about who should be in charge. May could have put herself in charge, but she didn't so Daisy being in charge is on HER. Why didn't May take the lead? I honestly think it's because she let Coulson go with Hale thinking that he *wouldn't* come back, or if he does, he'll be on his deathbed, so she gave Daisy the lead because that was what *Coulson* had said he wanted. I think that, because if May did it because she thought she couldn't be objective, *Mack* would have been the better candidate. After all, he has Director-credit. And yeah, that "This is my inside voice" line is great. I've always loved Talbot and Coulson's Odd-Couple relationship, and my favorite part of the episode was Coulson having to hold onto Talbot in some way to keep him on track. It's funny, but at the same it's really sad, and that's what makes it painfully enjoyable. No. Jemma Simmons should have been made Director. She was second in command under Mace and Coulson directly replaced Mace, so she should retain her rank and be next in line. Actually, "The Ghost" clearly showed us that Simmons outranked Coulson because she sent May to pull Mack and Coulson out of the field when she knew they were going after Daisy. |
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Post by ayanami on Apr 12, 2018 17:32:19 GMT
Just read through last episode's live chat and I just knew there was still one thing I had meant to comment on. The snowy area where Coulson and Talbot showed up in was exactly the set they used to film the outside of the Providence base on! Not we just need Coulson to through something in frustration so the automatic cannon gets activated and a Koenig shows up! I like the idea of this actually being the same spot, due to Coulson still knowing the coordinates, but I honestly doubt that the writers would come up with that. Still, with all those S1 call-backs recently, I guess nothing is impossible. Does Coulson even have a badge to throw in frustration? Doubtful. Maybe a stone will do, though? |
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Apr 12, 2018 17:37:22 GMT
Does Coulson even have a badge to throw in frustration? Doubtful. Maybe a stone will do, though? Maybe. Or maybe his own left hand! |
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Post by ayanami on Apr 12, 2018 18:04:42 GMT
Doubtful. Maybe a stone will do, though? Maybe. Or maybe his own left hand! ROFL!! |
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Apr 13, 2018 15:10:02 GMT
I rewatched "Providence" and I think you *could* make the argument that Talbot and Coulson were dropped off by the 084 near there.
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