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Post by DoTheMath on Feb 19, 2018 15:29:08 GMT
Here's something to ponder over while we ride out the rest of the break..... Also took a screenshot of the flow diagram to get a better look.  |
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Feb 19, 2018 16:44:20 GMT
A few of these theories bothered me because they were flawed and didn't explain why the team would have needed to go to the future in the first place.
I really think the original GH 325 is breaking down and it's now poisoning him.
The GH with Odium theory makes no sense because Kree-In-The-Box was a scientist, not a warrior.
If CoulsonRider is responsible for Coulson dying but Coulson is going to be a Ghost Rider anyway, they wouldn't have needed to go to the future so YoYo could be told that he was dying in the first place because it wouldn't have mattered.
^These have been my thoughts on this video, based on what I remember.
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Post by beren44 on Feb 19, 2018 16:44:44 GMT
Here's something to ponder over while we ride out the rest of the break..... Also took a screenshot of the flow diagram to get a better look. Can you tell me about the direct connection between Darkhold and Fury? I don't get that one. (likely because I haven't seen all the movies...) Also, I don't really understand the direct connection between Radcliff and Reyes. (Obviously I haven't taken the time to watch the entire video, but the rest of the flow chart makes sense to me.) Thanks in advance  |
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Feb 19, 2018 18:48:44 GMT
Here's something to ponder over while we ride out the rest of the break..... Also took a screenshot of the flow diagram to get a better look. Can you tell me about the direct connection between Darkhold and Fury? I don't get that one. (likely because I haven't seen all the movies...) Also, I don't really understand the direct connection between Radcliff and Reyes. (Obviously I haven't taken the time to watch the entire video, but the rest of the flow chart makes sense to me.) Thanks in advance This guy, while he's obviously a fan of the show, made quite a few leaps of logic in his many theories. The only connection between the Darkhold and Fury is that Fury was on the look-out for it. On the same level, the only connection between Robbie and Radcliffe is that Radcliffe read the Darkhold and Ghost Rider wanted the Darkhold because it's an evil book of evil and Ghost Rider has standards (that's a joke, but accurate) so would've wanted to end Radcliffe and anything else that had to do with the book. |
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Post by koos on Feb 19, 2018 20:28:40 GMT
A few of these theories bothered me because they were flawed and didn't explain why the team would have needed to go to the future in the first place. I have been following the guy for a while now. He has many interesting and thoughtfull theories, but this is my biggest complain about his videos. I am missing his thoughts on the bigger picture. I want a prediction as much based on facts as possible on the bigger picture. And despite his many efforts he still makes some flaws. But they are not just one of the many theories out there that it has be Thanos that will destroy the earth because, you know, of the movie. Or that it has to be Graviton, because we saw the Gravitionium. That's what you see everywhere, and he is more original and his theories are based on facts from within the show. Not from the comics or the movies. I saw this video once because I had a hard time getting through to it. I am also missing an, IMO, important detail in this video. Still wanted to ask him about it to see what his thoughts are. But I am a bit lazy lately. We're in a hiatus afterall. caseyrook AKA Mechelle you asked me why would I think Coulson is off? A bit late, but I didn't forget the question. It took time to collect my thoughts on this and do some research. I have been rewatching all the episode a couple of times, but I didn't see anything out of the ordinary in Coulson, except for the last ep. right before the portal opens. (Aside from his shooting skills, of course). May: You know she'll never forgive you, right? coulson: I have to hope. That didn't sound to me that he had to hope that she will forgive him. That sounds to me like he knows what it is that's going on. That he knows why they are stuck in a time-loop and that he hopes that he can break the loop next round. This and together with his strong motivation to bring back Daisy along with the the rest of the team. But it is possible I read too much in this. Can you tell me about the direct connection between Darkhold and Fury? I don't get that one. (likely because I haven't seen all the movies...) Also, I don't really understand the direct connection between Radcliff and Reyes. (Obviously I haven't taken the time to watch the entire video, but the rest of the flow chart makes sense to me.) Thanks in advance This guy, while he's obviously a fan of the show, made quite a few leaps of logic in his many theories. The only connection between the Darkhold and Fury is that Fury was on the look-out for it. On the same level, the only connection between Robbie and Radcliffe is that Radcliffe read the Darkhold and Ghost Rider wanted the Darkhold because it's an evil book of evil and Ghost Rider has standards (that's a joke, but accurate) so would've wanted to end Radcliffe and anything else that had to do with the book. Hmm, I tihnk I missed this part in his video. There's indeed no connection to the Darkhold and Fury. EDIT: I am not sure why Fury is positioned there in the diagram. The poisoning from the Dark Matter is an interesting thought though |
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Feb 19, 2018 20:44:19 GMT
A few of these theories bothered me because they were flawed and didn't explain why the team would have needed to go to the future in the first place. I have been following the guy for a while now. He has many interesting and thoughtfull theories, but this is my biggest complain about his videos. I am missing his thoughts on the bigger picture. I want a prediction as much based on facts as possible on the bigger picture. And despite his many efforts he still makes some flaws. But they are not just one of the many theories out there that it has be Thanos that will destroy the earth because, you know, of the movie. Or that it has to be Graviton, because we saw the Gravitionium. That's what you see everywhere, and he is more original and his theories are based on facts from within the show. Not from the comics or the movies. I saw this video once because I had a hard time getting through to it. I am also missing an IMO important detail in this video. Still wanted to ask him about it to see what his thoughts are. But I am a bit lazy lately. We're in a hiatus afterall. caseyrook AKA Mechelle you asked me why would I think Coulson is off? A bit late, but I didn't forget the question. It took time to collect my thoughts on this and do some research. I have been rewatching all the episode a couple of times, but I didn't see anything out of the ordinary in Coulson, except for the last ep. right before the portal opens. (Aside from his shooting skills, of course). May: You know she'll never forgive you, right? coulson: I have to hope. That didn't sound to me that he had to hope that she will forgive him. That sounds to me like he knows what it is that's going on. That he knows why they are stuck in a time-loop and that he hopes that he can break the loop next round. This and together with his strong motivation to bring back Daisy along with the the rest of the team. But it is possible I read too much in this. This guy, while he's obviously a fan of the show, made quite a few leaps of logic in his many theories. The only connection between the Darkhold and Fury is that Fury was on the look-out for it. On the same level, the only connection between Robbie and Radcliffe is that Radcliffe read the Darkhold and Ghost Rider wanted the Darkhold because it's an evil book of evil and Ghost Rider has standards (that's a joke, but accurate) so would've wanted to end Radcliffe and anything else that had to do with the book. Hmm, I tihnk I missed this part in his video. There's indeed no connection to the Darkhold and Fury. I'm at work right now, but I will definitely be replying to this later. EDIT: I severely doubt Coulson would agree to a deal where the rest of the team is affected the same as him, and I also doubt that he would blatantly lie about something so serious without a reason. So I don't think he said that, knowing it was a time loop. I'm taking that line to mean he knew that taking Daisy through the portal against her will would cause a rift in their relationship and that she probably wouldn't forgive him before he died, which is why he could only hope that she would. If you think about it; he had absolutely no reason to keep the knowledge that it's a time loop to himself if he actually knew it, and the show has showed *nothing* that would be evidence that he did. |
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Post by Hari Seldon on Feb 20, 2018 2:07:36 GMT
There's one monster sized flaw in the GR theory concerning the spirit needing a dead body: it took over Mack for a while and I don't think Mack has been dead. Yes, he was possessed in Puerto Rico, but not killed.
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Post by koos on Feb 20, 2018 22:15:33 GMT
May: You know she'll never forgive you, right? coulson: I have to hope. EDIT: I severely doubt Coulson would agree to a deal where the rest of the team is affected the same as him, and I also doubt that he would blatantly lie about something so serious without a reason. So I don't think he said that, knowing it was a time loop. If you think about it; he had absolutely no reason to keep the knowledge that it's a time loop to himself if he actually knew it, and the show has showed *nothing* that would be evidence that he did. I rewatched the earlier episodes and there was nothing that indicated that Coulson would know what was going on. Virgil's notebook seems to have only technical data. to me this changes after he got hurt in the latest episode, perhaps under the influence of the black/blue stuff that appears around his heart area. I also think if this is true that he has told May and not have kept it entirely to himself. It not clear what Coulson knows about the deal he made. It's possible he agreed to sacrify himself without the Ghost Rider telling him that there is a catch. And not only that they would endanger themselves in the future but also that they won't give up on him. I'm taking that line to mean he knew that taking Daisy through the portal against her will would cause a rift in their relationship and that she probably wouldn't forgive him before he died, which is why he could only hope that she would. I read it differently. It might be something else, but I don't think that the forgiveness part is about him taking Daisy through the portal against her will. Alternative: He knows he is dying and he need to have her to be the new director. And she doesn't forgive her for putting her up like that or that he was willing to make the deal to sacrifice himself in the first place. |
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