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Post by Black Widow on Mar 3, 2017 2:43:36 GMT
Do you think that SHIELD would have eventually abosrbed into the United Earth gov, which would have become apart of the United Federation of Planets...assuming SHIELD even still exist in the 22nd century? Would they have become MACO? Oh and also would Asgard be an Ally to the Federation? Also I believe Thor, Sif, Lorelei would all be still alive since Asgardians live for centuries. Anyway, you think SHIELD would become part of what will become apart of the Federation? |
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Mar 3, 2017 3:00:17 GMT
If the MCU and ST universe were the same then ST and AoS canon would be the same until the Augments (created by the reinstating of the Super Soldier program), are organized by KAHHHHN! and become an army for HYDRA.
And the Office of Temporal Investigations would be a specialized department of SHIELD...
...And approximately 51 percent of the MCU'S problems would be 'Q' related...
I've actually had a TNG/AoS crossover in my head where Q gets bored with Picard and chooses Coulson to be his new toy.
Too bad I can't sit down and write fanfiction as easily as I used too.
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Post by sigasahab on Mar 3, 2017 6:59:30 GMT
UNIT functions in the Dr Who universe in much the same way as SHIELD does in the MCU, and various contributors to that franchise have played with future variants of UNIT, although never very convincingly.
Isn't the Star Trek universe basically post-apocalyptic? Any 20th/21st century version of SHIELD would have to survive quite a bit of knocking about.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Mar 3, 2017 13:48:58 GMT
UNIT functions in the Dr Who universe in much the same way as SHIELD does in the MCU, and various contributors to that franchise have played with future variants of UNIT, although never very convincingly. Isn't the Star Trek universe basically post-apocalyptic? Any 20th/21st century version of SHIELD would have to survive quite a bit of knocking about. I'd go more with Torchwood than UNIT in sense that Torchwood and SHIELD keep and use the alien tech they find while UNIT doesn't seem to. Then again, UNIT and SHIELD are acronyms while Torchwood isn't. |
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Post by sigasahab on Mar 3, 2017 15:52:07 GMT
Yes, that's a fair point about Torchwood. I guess as an older Dr Who fan, I think of them as more of a flash-in-the-pan sort of thing. UNIT was less obviously UNCLE-influenced than SHIELD (& THUNDER & SHADO) but it is part of the same 1960s idea than a 'secret' organization can be benevolent and heroic (or at least be dominated by benevolent and heroic members).
EDIT to get back to OP's topic: Starfleet, while overt rather than covert, seems to embody similar principles. It's interesting that the modern concept of Section 31 is entirely inconsistent with 'the UNCLE ideal' (which very few people seem to 'get' - the creators of The Man from UNCLE wanted to use a fictional organisation precisely because they didn't want to glamorise existing covert agencies. Just like Star Trek, it's an idealised optimistic projection rather than a politically naïve one.) |
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Mar 3, 2017 18:31:09 GMT
Yes, that's a fair point about Torchwood. I guess as an older Dr Who fan, I think of them as more of a flash-in-the-pan sort of thing. UNIT was less obviously UNCLE-influenced than SHIELD (& THUNDER & SHADO) but it is part of the same 1960s idea than a 'secret' organization can be benevolent and heroic (or at least be dominated by benevolent and heroic members).
EDIT to get back to OP's topic: Starfleet, while overt rather than covert, seems to embody similar principles. It's interesting that the modern concept of Section 31 is entirely inconsistent with 'the UNCLE ideal' (which very few people seem to 'get' - the creators of The Man from UNCLE wanted to use a fictional organisation precisely because they didn't want to glamorise existing covert agencies. Just like Star Trek, it's an idealised optimistic projection rather than a politically naïve one.) Hey, I'm 24 and have seen all the episodes of movies of UNCLE. I understood that reference! While the idea of Section 31 does go against the ideals of Starfleet, I really do understand it's existence. There would be those in Starfleet who'd want to be a more militarized and heavily armed/prepared for e against threats to Earth/The Federation. |
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I'll be spending next weekend with some family I like and trying to avoid any remotely controversial conversations with others that I spend the rest of the year avoiding 