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Post by backroadjunkie on Jan 9, 2018 12:03:57 GMT
2. Maybe a bit like Joe Dawson on Highlander, supposed to strictly observe and nothing else, except when he decides to tell DM that a particular bad guy needs to be stopped. Enoch is an "observer" until something becomes prophecy, then he becomes fully involved, which makes him not an observer, but a participant. I'm still suspicious to his motives... He only shot those who were a threat. His days of shooting people just to shoot people are probably over.  I thought of some off-the-wall scenarios, but, well, you win.  Fitz probably took a few, in case they needed to fight their way to the cache. Either way, at that point they didn't even know where Coulson, Mack, Yoyo or May was, so they would have left that equipment in the wall. (No, I'm not acknowledging your Coulson joke.  |
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Post by backroadjunkie on Jan 9, 2018 12:22:36 GMT
I wasn't able to buy the Destroyer of World, thanks to his brother, but my backup plan succeeded. I worked my way through the heart of Kasius Slave and with her help I simply stole the Destroyer of World in front of Kassius' and his brother's stupid blue noses. The slave even slid her master's throat. It was the highlight of this episode. She now wants to marry me, can you believe it? This brings up a question. Did Boshtok... Fitz have the cash to buy Destroyer of Worlds, or was he always planning on just fighting his way out? Boshtok's backstory was a fabrication, after all... |
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Post by koos on Jan 9, 2018 12:56:09 GMT
I wasn't able to buy the Destroyer of World, thanks to his brother, but my backup plan succeeded. I worked my way through the heart of Kasius Slave and with her help I simply stole the Destroyer of World in front of Kassius' and his brother's stupid blue noses. The slave even slid her master's throat. It was the highlight of this episode. She now wants to marry me, can you believe it? This brings up a question. Did Boshtok... Fitz have the cash to buy Destroyer of Worlds, or was he always planning on just fighting his way out? Boshtok's backstory was a fabrication, after all... That's a good question. Probably not. But with Enoch you never know. He's probably from a civilization who has every resource in plenty amounts. |
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Post by Hari Seldon on Jan 9, 2018 13:22:46 GMT
2. Maybe a bit like Joe Dawson on Highlander, supposed to strictly observe and nothing else, except when he decides to tell DM that a particular bad guy needs to be stopped. Enoch is an "observer" until something becomes prophecy, then he becomes fully involved, which makes him not an observer, but a participant. I'm still suspicious to his motives... Your description of Enoch reminds me of Swayze in Roadhouse - "Be nice, until it's time to not be nice. I'd say that breaks down with Sinara. She was only starting to get back up and still looked disoriented when he shot her. Chances were very good they could have made it to the exit by the time she made it to her feet. On top of that, as I said before, I'm pretty sure he was using Icers so he wasn't killing anyone. |
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Post by haxemon on Jan 9, 2018 14:30:39 GMT
Well, not to be critical, but for all the things that go on in the Marvel Universe, you still want to talk about plausibility? Much of the physics of what's being represented right now is implausible. But beyond that, there are a number of reasons you want to put the planet back together, including recapturing some sort of atmosphere to live on the surface of a planet. Of course, since I suspect the Team comes back from the future (hey, that's make a great movie title) to prevent the catastrophe in the first place, the point may be moot. But it would help in the alternate reality where Earth does get destroyed. Fair point. But I'm actually able to (sometimes with difficulty) explain away everything else. Hulk's mass increase is probably the one I can't, but everything else has at least something. Of course the writers could come up with some plausible scenario as to how Daisy destroyed the Earth in the first place (or that she didn't and something/someone else did) and also some plausible way for Flint to stick it back together - maybe his abilities include the ability to turn cold rock into a molten core etc. etc. I just think it's a stretch of all stretches. Bad enough that the remaining sliver of Earth seems to have comparable gravity in the first place. Anyway, I'm along for the ride regardless, but I sure hope they don't have Flint pull all the orbiting asteroids together to make a new Earth. |
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Post by Hari Seldon on Jan 9, 2018 14:51:28 GMT
Well, not to be critical, but for all the things that go on in the Marvel Universe, you still want to talk about plausibility? Much of the physics of what's being represented right now is implausible. But beyond that, there are a number of reasons you want to put the planet back together, including recapturing some sort of atmosphere to live on the surface of a planet. Of course, since I suspect the Team comes back from the future (hey, that's make a great movie title) to prevent the catastrophe in the first place, the point may be moot. But it would help in the alternate reality where Earth does get destroyed. Fair point. But I'm actually able to (sometimes with difficulty) explain away everything else. Hulk's mass increase is probably the one I can't, but everything else has at least something. Of course the writers could come up with some plausible scenario as to how Daisy destroyed the Earth in the first place (or that she didn't and something/someone else did) and also some plausible way for Flint to stick it back together - maybe his abilities include the ability to turn cold rock into a molten core etc. etc. I just think it's a stretch of all stretches. Bad enough that the remaining sliver of Earth seems to have comparable gravity in the first place. Anyway, I'm along for the ride regardless, but I sure hope they don't have Flint pull all the orbiting asteroids together to make a new Earth. I've been tuning out the Hulk's mass increase since the 70's to the extent where I didn't really let it enter my mind until the Fantastic Four movie where the Commish goes through his weight gain with the camera pointed at the scale rather than him becoming Thing. As for the gravity, I figured they're using whatever the Inhumans on the moon were using for their normal gravity (which was probably 'writer's convenience'). |
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Post by beren44 on Jan 9, 2018 18:28:46 GMT
And I personally really don't want to see anyone "put the Earth back together". That will really stretch the limits of plausibility. I can maybe buy into Quake actually causing the destruction in the first place but even that would need a good explanation IMO, but to re-assemble a planet? No, please, no. Just go with some sort of rescue of our team and maybe freeing the remaining humans/inhumans from their current state, but I just can't see any plausible "everything's back to normal" here. And of course if they want to make a quick stop on their way back to the present and stop the destruction itself that's fine too. But having Flint reassemble the Earth would be nuke the fridge worthy IMO. Well, not to be critical, but for all the things that go on in the Marvel Universe, you still want to talk about plausibility? Much of the physics of what's being represented right now is implausible. But beyond that, there are a number of reasons you want to put the planet back together, including recapturing some sort of atmosphere to live on the surface of a planet. Of course, since I suspect the Team comes back from the future (hey, that's make a great movie title) to prevent the catastrophe in the first place, the point may be moot. But it would help in the alternate reality where Earth does get destroyed.The synopsis on s5 ep8 would support this theory. I'll add a spoiler tag in case someone doesn't want to see the one sentence description.
"Coulson and the team discover that the most unexpected person from S.H.I.E.L.D.'s past may hold the key to stopping Earth's destruction." {I am reading 'stopping' as 'stopped it from happening before it ever did'. Which gets back to Fitz's fixed-future dilemma.}
Could it be that Graviton gets involved in keeping the Earth from being pulled apart in the first place? Just my mind wandering...
EDIT: I wandered farther and remembered that Blake and the Watchdogs had the formula that sucked stuff into a tight mass again, too. But that is really reaching.
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Post by Jemma Simmons on Jan 9, 2018 19:00:54 GMT
Well, that was a really lame attempt at a trick. Stevie Wonder could have seen that coming!  Well, she clearly was surprised and so was Jemma. And she was surprised how hot he was I still prefer him in cardigans. |
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Post by koos on Jan 9, 2018 22:06:24 GMT
Well, she clearly was surprised and so was Jemma. And she was surprised how hot he was I still prefer him in cardigans. Sadly enough it is marauder protocol to wear my current cloths. Also on our wedding  |
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Post by Hari Seldon on Jan 9, 2018 22:13:28 GMT
Well, she clearly was surprised and so was Jemma. And she was surprised how hot he was I still prefer him in cardigans. Be flexible, Jemma Simmons. After all, he may like his new look and we know Daisy definitely does, and she doesn't have her love interest for this season declared yet. |
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Post by koos on Jan 9, 2018 22:17:32 GMT
I still prefer him in cardigans. Be flexible, Jemma Simmons . After all, he may like his new look and we know Daisy definitely does, and she doesn't have her love interest for this season declared yet. I didn't want to say it, not to upset her, but yeah, I agree. Be careful, Jemma. |
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Post by FreeKresge on Jan 10, 2018 6:46:06 GMT
Here are my thoughts regarding "Fun & Games."
In my comments on "Rewind," I commented on how this season has spent too much time providing exposition and moving pieces into place. Finally, things are starting to happen.
I like the dynamic between Kasius and Fitz a lot. It appears that all of the other aliens have been giving Kasius a hard time over whatever caused him to be sent to earth, which has been frustrating him. The one guest who has never done so was Fitz, who, until recently, was in a cryo-stasis chamber. It is natural that Kasius would be drawn to Fitz, especially when Fitz acted sympathetically toward Kasius. I am guessing that Enoch prepared Fitz well on that account.
I have noticed that the non-Kree aliens visiting Kasius generally look human. At first, I thought that it was due to a limited makeup and CGI budget. Now, it appears that it was to establish that most aliens look human so that nobody would notice that Fitz looks strangely similar to the natives on earth.
I understand that the Kree would use English when speaking with humans. I also understand the convention that when two people who would normally speak another language might appear to be speaking English with each other (e.g., German soldiers in otherwise English-language WWII films). Just as we assume that the German soldiers were really speaking German with the film translating for us, we may assume that when Kree are talking with each other or with visiting aliens, they are speaking Kree or some interstellar lingua franca with the show translating for us. However, why is it that Fitz is able to understand and speak with the other aliens in whatever language they were really using? Did Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. import translator microbes from Farscape?
Another possibility is that Enoch's ship might not be very fast. The distance from earth mentioned at the end of "Rewind" (365,000,000 miles) is about the closest Jupiter gets to earth. It takes modern day earth probes over a year to reach Jupiter. If Enoch's ship is no faster, that might be enough time for Fitz to learn a new language, perhaps even an alien language.
I agree with those who were not happy at how Tess was killed off. Like with Rosalind Price, I believe that Tess deserved something better even if she had to be killed off. This felt close to being stuffed in a fridge, although not as blatant as with Price. I did not expect Tess to be killed off in this particular episode, but it was clear that she was not going to be on the show for long. Elsewhere on these boards, there is a cast photo celebrating the 100th episode of the show and a video of the cast celebrating the new year. The presence of the actor playing Deke and the absence of the actress playing Tess clearly showed who is and is not going to be around for a while.
In "Rewind," Fitz seemed to believe that Simmons was better off without him. He seems to have changed his mind.
We can add "attacking a Kree with a butter knife" to the list of poor decisions that Simmons made this season. She was very lucky that Fitz magically received the combat skills necessary to save her. Someday, I may get around to explaining my theory why Simmons has been having poor decision making ability and poor impulse control.
I may catch some flak for saying this, but she made another bad decision soon afterward. I have noted that everything that we have been told about the Frameworks says that Fitz is now very different from the person that Simmons has known for over a decade. She really does not know who this new person is, but she still proposed marriage to him. Admittedly, she is probably still in denial about these changes. Also, the conversation with Daisy in which Simmons said that she preferred Fitz in cardigans may be setting this up as an issue to be addressed.
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Post by haxemon on Jan 10, 2018 15:29:19 GMT
I am guessing that Enoch prepared Fitz well on that account. Totally got the same vibe here. Enoch prepared Fitz to take advantage of Kasius' insecurities. I have noticed that the non-Kree aliens visiting Kasius generally look human. My theory here is that these are mostly races (though that's not technically accurate) that the Kree have experimented on or "seeded". i.e. the theory that the Kree either started life on Earth or followed another race that did - and also to other planets. However, why is it that Fitz is able to understand and speak with the other aliens in whatever language they were really using? I took this is basic story-telling trope in so many genres. You can dream up all sorts of plausible in-story explanations (i.e. that Enoch somehow taught Fitz other languages while in stasis (or after), some sort of inner-ear translator tech etc.) but most shows/films just skip that part for the sake of story-telling. The energy/exposition it would take to explain it on camera is time better spent with more action IMO. |
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Post by koos on Jan 11, 2018 15:19:42 GMT
You know, if I were Fitz, Jemma or Mack than I would call Daisy "The Destroyer of Worlds" all day long for the fun of it. Just to piss her off  |
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Post by beren44 on Jan 11, 2018 18:41:33 GMT
You know, if I were Fitz, Jemma or Mack than I would call Daisy "The Destroyer of Worlds" all day long for the fun of it. Just to piss her off Maybe Trip will show up and say, "Aw, DestroyerGirl, you take the shake AND the quake wherever you go!" |
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