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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Dec 27, 2017 21:19:02 GMT
I rewatched 'Rewind' and now I'm confused.
If Robin's first prophecy is what led to Enoch sending the team to 2091 and leaving Fitz behind, then what was the point of her second prophecy about him saving the team?
Something must have changed in the future to warrant the second prophecy?
Is anyone else confused?
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Post by aquaangel on Dec 27, 2017 21:23:58 GMT
Now that you mention it, that is confusing.
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Post by Jemma Simmons on Dec 27, 2017 21:25:11 GMT
I rewatched 'Rewind' and now I'm confused. If Robin's first prophecy is what led to Enoch sending the team to 2091 and leaving Fitz behind, then what was the point of her second prophecy about him saving the team? Something must have changed in the future to warrant the second prophecy? Is anyone else confused? Or perhaps she was able to see that Fitz needed to go later, so made the first prophecy about the team initially and then the second so Enoch would send him after. |
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Post by beren44 on Dec 27, 2017 21:25:54 GMT
I rewatched 'Rewind' and now I'm confused. If Robin's first prophecy is what led to Enoch sending the team to 2091 and leaving Fitz behind, then what was the point of her second prophecy about him saving the team? Something must have changed in the future to warrant the second prophecy? Is anyone else confused? I think you are being impatient. I'm willing to bet they have an explanation for it all. |
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Dec 27, 2017 21:26:40 GMT
I rewatched 'Rewind' and now I'm confused. If Robin's first prophecy is what led to Enoch sending the team to 2091 and leaving Fitz behind, then what was the point of her second prophecy about him saving the team? Something must have changed in the future to warrant the second prophecy? Is anyone else confused? Or perhaps she was able to see that Fitz needed to go later, so made the first prophecy about the team initially and then the second so Enoch would send him after. Okay but *why?* Why not just send him there with them? Why leave him behind in the first olace? |
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Dec 27, 2017 21:30:13 GMT
I rewatched 'Rewind' and now I'm confused. If Robin's first prophecy is what led to Enoch sending the team to 2091 and leaving Fitz behind, then what was the point of her second prophecy about him saving the team? Something must have changed in the future to warrant the second prophecy? Is anyone else confused? I think you are being impatient. I'm willing to bet they have an explanation for it all. Maybe, but this doesn't feel like one of those threads that they'll go back and tie up. These writers *have* been guilty of writing things like this out of plot convenience. But if you're right , i'll totally own up to being wrong. |
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Post by Jemma Simmons on Dec 27, 2017 21:46:14 GMT
Or perhaps she was able to see that Fitz needed to go later, so made the first prophecy about the team initially and then the second so Enoch would send him after. Okay but *why?* Why not just send him there with them? Why leave him behind in the first olace? He did put together their stash before he went into cryostasis... if he'd been taken with everyone else, he wouldn't have been able to do that. Also, if Enoch had sent him with everyone else, he wouldn't have likely been able to set a plan in motion to put Fitz where he is, posing as a "buyer". |
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Dec 27, 2017 21:54:50 GMT
Okay but *why?* Why not just send him there with them? Why leave him behind in the first olace? He did put together their stash before he went into cryostasis... if he'd been taken with everyone else, he wouldn't have been able to do that. Also, if Enoch had sent him with everyone else, he wouldn't have likely been able to set a plan in motion to put Fitz where he is, posing as a "buyer". Enoch could have done all that by himself. He really didn't need Fitz. |
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Post by polgara on Dec 27, 2017 22:09:08 GMT
He did put together their stash before he went into cryostasis... if he'd been taken with everyone else, he wouldn't have been able to do that. Also, if Enoch had sent him with everyone else, he wouldn't have likely been able to set a plan in motion to put Fitz where he is, posing as a "buyer". Enoch could have done all that by himself. He really didn't need Fitz. Enoch would not have felt the urgency to save the team, and he wouldn't have known about Coulson's hand and shotgun axe. Fitz couldn't go with the team at the same time or he would have been indentured to Grill as well, or acting like a big fool like Daisy in trying to rescue Simmons. |
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Post by beren44 on Dec 27, 2017 22:10:02 GMT
I think you are being impatient. I'm willing to bet they have an explanation for it all. Maybe, but this doesn't feel like one of those threads that they'll go back and tie up. These writers *have* been guilty of writing things like this out of plot convenience. But if you're right , i'll totally own up to being wrong. The writers have done that for sure, yet this is a pretty major plot point. I'm willing to bet they have it thought out. In fact, what Jemma Simmons (EDIT: polgara ) just said makes a lot of sense. There may well be more to it, also. |
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Post by aquaangel on Dec 27, 2017 22:31:55 GMT
He did put together their stash before he went into cryostasis... if he'd been taken with everyone else, he wouldn't have been able to do that. Also, if Enoch had sent him with everyone else, he wouldn't have likely been able to set a plan in motion to put Fitz where he is, posing as a "buyer". Enoch could have done all that by himself. He really didn't need Fitz. I thought Fitz or Hunter asked him why he didn't just go to the future and change things and he said something like: "we are not allowed to directly be involved"? So, this way he is only indirectly involved, I guess. I could be wrong about him saying that though. |
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Dec 27, 2017 22:37:37 GMT
Enoch could have done all that by himself. He really didn't need Fitz. I thought Fitz or Hunter asked him why he didn't just go to the future and change things and he said something like: "we are not allowed to directly be involved"? So, this way he is only indirectly involved, I guess. I could be wrong about him saying that though. Enoch said he could not interfere...until there was the threat of a extinction level event. |
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Post by aquaangel on Dec 27, 2017 22:40:10 GMT
I thought Fitz or Hunter asked him why he didn't just go to the future and change things and he said something like: "we are not allowed to directly be involved"? So, this way he is only indirectly involved, I guess. I could be wrong about him saying that though. Enoch said he could not interfere...until there was the threat of a extinction level event. Oh, okay. Thanks. My memory is a bit wonky sometimes lol. |
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Dec 27, 2017 22:58:41 GMT
Enoch said he could not interfere...until there was the threat of a extinction level event. Oh, okay. Thanks. My memory is a bit wonky sometimes lol. In all fairness, I have to close attention to everything said and shown in the episodes because of my Rundowns for the Level7Access Podcast. |
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Post by beren44 on Dec 27, 2017 23:10:38 GMT
Enoch said he could not interfere...until there was the threat of a extinction level event. You know, when he said that, what went through my mind was, "We understand the importance of not interfering with other cultures, but we aren't gonna be stupid about it and make it a driving principle as in a 'Prime Directive' ala Star Trek, with all their violations of THAT rule. At least the chronicons?? sp?? (Enoch's people) have a sensible view of the situation. Having a law like that just invites non-compliance...how are you gonna go explore new worlds and new civilizations without having an influence? Yeah, any replies should probably be directed to the Star Trek board. I don't mean to digress here. I just got tired of the Prime Directive plot lines that are set up for failure. |
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