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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Dec 12, 2017 3:18:13 GMT
Inhumans were originally humans. They only became Inhumans after the Kree modified their DNA.
Does this make Inhumans 'aliens'?
I personally do not think so because they originated from Earth, and besides a faction that lived on the moon, they live on Earth.
Now, if Inhumans are alien because of their modified DNA, does that make Coulson an alien?
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Post by DoTheMath on Dec 12, 2017 3:43:22 GMT
Inhumans were originally humans. They only became Inhumans after the Kree modified their DNA. Does this make Inhumans 'aliens'? I personally do not think so because they originated from Earth, and besides a faction that lived on the moon, they live on Earth. Now, if Inhumans are alien because of their modified DNA, does that make Coulson an alien? They are genetically altered humans. They're only aliens if they move to another country...... Coulson is 100% human. His DNA wasn't altered. The GH325 didn't alter his DNA, it regenerated tissue and implanted alien home-sickness in his brain. Once he saw an accurate representation of home the home-sickness was gone. Of course he did have to suffer through memory adjustments, courtesy of Rosie the Robot........
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Dec 12, 2017 3:51:27 GMT
Inhumans were originally humans. They only became Inhumans after the Kree modified their DNA. Does this make Inhumans 'aliens'? I personally do not think so because they originated from Earth, and besides a faction that lived on the moon, they live on Earth. Now, if Inhumans are alien because of their modified DNA, does that make Coulson an alien? They are genetically altered humans. They're only aliens if they move to another country...... Coulson is 100% human. His DNA wasn't altered. The GH325 didn't alter his DNA, it regenerated tissue and implanted alien home-sickness in his brain. Once he saw an accurate representation of home the home-sickness was gone. Of course he did have to suffer through memory adjustments, courtesy of Rosie the Robot........ Actually, yes the GH .325 did alter his DNA and also Daisy's DNA. Remember, Daisy's blood worked as an ingredient in HIVE's plan to turn humans into HIVEnated Inhumans, because it has the Kree DNA that HIVE needed. Fitz and Simmons indicated to Coulson that his blood would work too in the same conversation about Daisy's blood being able to work in that plan. Also, Coulson's hypergraphia came from memories 'implanted' into his DNA (May's words). I'm not saying that Coulson *is* a Kree, just that his DNA has been altered by the presence of the GH formula created by the blood of the Kree.
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Post by DoTheMath on Dec 13, 2017 0:27:51 GMT
They are genetically altered humans. They're only aliens if they move to another country...... Coulson is 100% human. His DNA wasn't altered. The GH325 didn't alter his DNA, it regenerated tissue and implanted alien home-sickness in his brain. Once he saw an accurate representation of home the home-sickness was gone. Of course he did have to suffer through memory adjustments, courtesy of Rosie the Robot........ Actually, yes the GH .325 did alter his DNA and also Daisy's DNA. Remember, Daisy's blood worked as an ingredient in HIVE's plan to turn humans into HIVEnated Inhumans, because it has the Kree DNA that HIVE needed. Fitz and Simmons indicated to Coulson that his blood would work too in the same conversation about Daisy's blood being able to work in that plan. Also, Coulson's hypergraphia came from memories 'implanted' into his DNA (May's words). I'm not saying that Coulson *is* a Kree, just that his DNA has been altered by the presence of the GH formula created by the blood of the Kree. Not saying you're wrong and not saying you're right, just gonna stick with my head-canon. That drain Daisy or drain Coulson so Hive can make Inhuman slaves story-line was a big pile of horsesh!t; and, trust me, I know horsesh!t when I see it as I have 4 horses. First, they say the only thing that can kill Hive is the sleepy Kree circling in space for centuries (because Lash said "hold my beer", then passed up the chance so he could ..... hell, I can't even say it) THEN it changed to "hey, we can use the Kree blood to make Inhuman slaves".... THEN, it's "oh shucks, we didn't get the Kree blood"..... Then it's "Drain Daisy she had GH325 used on her". HORSESH!T !!!!!!!!!!! The only thing that changed Daisy's DNA was terrigenisis. Other wise we'd have heard about a change in her DNA (blood samples) after the GH injection, and we didn't get that. All we got was she didn't get hypergraphia from the GH but there was a change after she came out of the temple. The only way GH325 would change Coulson's DNA is if the writers wrote themselves into a corner. Oh, wait........ Okay. Rant over. Thanks for letting me vent.
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Dec 13, 2017 0:34:55 GMT
Actually, yes the GH .325 did alter his DNA and also Daisy's DNA. Remember, Daisy's blood worked as an ingredient in HIVE's plan to turn humans into HIVEnated Inhumans, because it has the Kree DNA that HIVE needed. Fitz and Simmons indicated to Coulson that his blood would work too in the same conversation about Daisy's blood being able to work in that plan. Also, Coulson's hypergraphia came from memories 'implanted' into his DNA (May's words). I'm not saying that Coulson *is* a Kree, just that his DNA has been altered by the presence of the GH formula created by the blood of the Kree. Not saying you're wrong and not saying you're right, just gonna stick with my head-canon. That drain Daisy or drain Coulson so Hive can make Inhuman slaves story-line was a big pile of horsesh!t; and, trust me, I know horsesh!t when I see it as I have 4 horses. First, they say the only thing that can kill Hive is the sleepy Kree circling in space for centuries (because Lash said "hold my beer", then passed up the chance so he could ..... hell, I can't even say it) THEN it changed to "hey, we can use the Kree blood to make Inhuman slaves".... THEN, it's "oh shucks, we didn't get the Kree blood"..... Then it's "Drain Daisy she had GH325 used on her". HORSESH!T !!!!!!!!!!! The only thing that changed Daisy's DNA was terrigenisis. Other wise we'd have heard about a change in her DNA (blood samples) after the GH injection, and we didn't get that. All we got was she didn't get hypergraphia from the GH but there was a change after she came out of the temple. The only way GH325 would change Coulson's DNA is if the writers wrote themselves into a corner. Oh, wait........ Okay. Rant over. Thanks for letting me vent. One thing: there was no reason to believe that the Kree came to Earth solely to destroy HIVE. They were there to destroy any Inhumans if the signal was given (with the Kree thing) and HIVE *thought* they were there to destroy him because he couldn't defeat them in his original form. He even said they weren't as strong as he remembered. I have problems with the "Inhumanifying the Earth" storyline too, but that wasn't one of them.
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Post by DoTheMath on Dec 13, 2017 0:40:31 GMT
Not saying you're wrong and not saying you're right, just gonna stick with my head-canon. That drain Daisy or drain Coulson so Hive can make Inhuman slaves story-line was a big pile of horsesh!t; and, trust me, I know horsesh!t when I see it as I have 4 horses. First, they say the only thing that can kill Hive is the sleepy Kree circling in space for centuries (because Lash said "hold my beer", then passed up the chance so he could ..... hell, I can't even say it) THEN it changed to "hey, we can use the Kree blood to make Inhuman slaves".... THEN, it's "oh shucks, we didn't get the Kree blood"..... Then it's "Drain Daisy she had GH325 used on her". HORSESH!T !!!!!!!!!!! The only thing that changed Daisy's DNA was terrigenisis. Other wise we'd have heard about a change in her DNA (blood samples) after the GH injection, and we didn't get that. All we got was she didn't get hypergraphia from the GH but there was a change after she came out of the temple. The only way GH325 would change Coulson's DNA is if the writers wrote themselves into a corner. Oh, wait........ Okay. Rant over. Thanks for letting me vent. One thing: there was no reason to believe that the Kree came to Earth solely to destroy HIVE. They were there to destroy any Inhumans if the signal was given (with the Kree thing) and HIVE *thought* they were there to destroy him because he couldn't defeat them in his original form. He even said they weren't as strong as he remembered. I have problems with the "Inhumanifying the Earth" storyline too, but that wasn't one of them. I just remember him saying the artifact James had was the only thing that could defeat him. As for the rest, speculation? or was it script? I don't remember it well as I don't have S3 (nor access to it) so I haven't seen it in quite a while...... It was all a big steaming pile of S3, anyways..........
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Dec 13, 2017 0:44:59 GMT
One thing: there was no reason to believe that the Kree came to Earth solely to destroy HIVE. They were there to destroy any Inhumans if the signal was given (with the Kree thing) and HIVE *thought* they were there to destroy him because he couldn't defeat them in his original form. He even said they weren't as strong as he remembered. I have problems with the "Inhumanifying the Earth" storyline too, but that wasn't one of them. I just remember him saying the artifact James had was the only thing that could defeat him. As for the rest, speculation? or was it script? I don't remember it well as I don't have S3 (nor access to it) so I haven't seen it in quite a while...... It was all a big steaming pile of S3, anyways.......... He thought the artifact could destroy him because he knew it called the Kree to Earth and remembered being defeated by the Kree the first time. It wasn't stated outright, but it also wasn't *not said*. It was just heavily implied. Also, (sorry I forget where you're from) the S3 blu rays from the UK are region free and they should be a bit cheaper by now. (Not sure about the DVD's)
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Post by DoTheMath on Dec 13, 2017 0:51:42 GMT
I just remember him saying the artifact James had was the only thing that could defeat him. As for the rest, speculation? or was it script? I don't remember it well as I don't have S3 (nor access to it) so I haven't seen it in quite a while...... It was all a big steaming pile of S3, anyways.......... He thought the artifact could destroy him because he knew it called the Kree to Earth and remembered being defeated by the Kree the first time. It wasn't stated outright, but it also wasn't *not said*. It was just heavily implied. Also, (sorry I forget where you're from) the S3 blu rays from the UK are region free and they should be a bit cheaper by now. (Not sure about the DVD's) So, speculation then..... I'll reserve the right to stick with my head canon.
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Dec 13, 2017 0:57:06 GMT
He thought the artifact could destroy him because he knew it called the Kree to Earth and remembered being defeated by the Kree the first time. It wasn't stated outright, but it also wasn't *not said*. It was just heavily implied. Also, (sorry I forget where you're from) the S3 blu rays from the UK are region free and they should be a bit cheaper by now. (Not sure about the DVD's) So, speculation then..... I'll reserve the right to stick with my head canon. Well, to you *that* storyline in season 3 was horsesugar honey ice and tea. To me, *all* of season 3 is horsesugar honey ice and tea because it's "WHY, COULSON? WHY???" everytime I watch it.
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Post by DoTheMath on Dec 13, 2017 1:13:14 GMT
So, speculation then..... I'll reserve the right to stick with my head canon. Well, to you *that* storyline in season 3 was horsesugar honey ice and tea. To me, *all* of season 3 is horsesugar honey ice and tea because it's "WHY, COULSON? WHY???" everytime I watch it. I definitely had some issues with S3, but.............. it's AoS! There was enough I liked that helps ease the disdain of those I didn't. It's not like it's the 3rd Fantastic Four movie version of bad; it's more like the Star Wars prequels level of disappointment.....
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Dec 13, 2017 1:15:50 GMT
Well, to you *that* storyline in season 3 was horsesugar honey ice and tea. To me, *all* of season 3 is horsesugar honey ice and tea because it's "WHY, COULSON? WHY???" everytime I watch it. I definitely had some issues with S3, but.............. it's AoS! There was enough I liked that helps ease the disdain of those I didn't. It's not like it's the 3rd Fantastic Four movie version of bad; it's more like the Star Wars prequels level of disappointment..... Psst.... I like the prequels. I literally grew up with them and have yet to reach the level of dislike for them that makes me hate them to.
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Post by DoTheMath on Dec 13, 2017 1:30:55 GMT
I definitely had some issues with S3, but.............. it's AoS! There was enough I liked that helps ease the disdain of those I didn't. It's not like it's the 3rd Fantastic Four movie version of bad; it's more like the Star Wars prequels level of disappointment..... Psst.... I like the prequels. I literally grew up with them and have yet to reach the level of dislike for them that makes me hate them to. Psst.... I know. I've seen you post about them. Didn't say I hate them, but they were disappointing. TFA brought the franchise back to where it belongs; and, from what I'm hearing, TLJ will jump it to light speed. Rogue One was simply fantastic.
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Dec 13, 2017 1:34:14 GMT
Psst.... I like the prequels. I literally grew up with them and have yet to reach the level of dislike for them that makes me hate them to. Psst.... I know. I've seen you post about them. Didn't say I hate them, but they were disappointing. TFA brought the franchise back to where it belongs; and, from what I'm hearing, TLJ will jump it to light speed. Rogue One was simply fantastic. As I age and grow more 'sensitive' to seeing problems and plotholes in movies or shows I loved as a child, I will admit that I do have issues with them that I didn't have before.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Dec 13, 2017 4:04:27 GMT
I definitely had some issues with S3, but.............. it's AoS! There was enough I liked that helps ease the disdain of those I didn't. It's not like it's the 3rd Fantastic Four movie version of bad; it's more like the Star Wars prequels level of disappointment..... Psst.... I like the prequels. I literally grew up with them and have yet to reach the level of dislike for them that makes me hate them to. Psst... Some of us are so old we saw Ep 4 in its first run when it didn't have a number and was THE Star Wars. That's way back when Han was crafty to shoot first because Greedo was actually meant to be competent and not such a buffoon that he can't hit a target from across a small table.
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Dec 13, 2017 5:52:54 GMT
Psst.... I like the prequels. I literally grew up with them and have yet to reach the level of dislike for them that makes me hate them to. Psst... Some of us are so old we saw Ep 4 in its first run when it didn't have a number and was THE Star Wars. That's way back when Han was crafty to shoot first because Greedo was actually meant to be competent and not such a buffoon that he can't hit a target from across a small table. My mom raised me on the VHS tapes until I was around 13 and they were too damaged to be watchable and we had to get the DVD's. Long story short, I knew *that* Han Solo first too.
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