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Post by NorrinRaddOfZennla on Nov 9, 2017 22:38:37 GMT
...But introduces another.
The Infinity Gauntlet has a cameo in this movie and the event that transpires explains all and signals something about Odin.
The next new wrinkle in a long standing series of wrinkles is Thor's hammer. From the trailer we know it gets destroyed. The enchantment not withstanding Uru is a precious mineral that has it's own potential besides being quite rare.
Hopefully the MCU will close the open curiosity to some degree of satisfaction? I am being purposefully vague for those that have yet to see the movie.
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Post by haxemon on Nov 10, 2017 14:19:06 GMT
I'm not really sure what you mean - perhaps being less vague using spoiler tags? Are you thinking someone finds the Uru and makes something out of it? Or would the enchantment still exist on the shards of Mjolnir so that nobody could lift the pieces if they found them? |
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Post by ayanami on Nov 10, 2017 16:23:27 GMT
...But introduces another. The Infinity Gauntlet has a cameo in this movie and the event that transpires explains all and signals something about Odin. The next new wrinkle in a long standing series of wrinkles is Thor's hammer. From the trailer we know it gets destroyed. The enchantment not withstanding Uru is a precious mineral that has it's own potential besides being quite rare. Hopefully the MCU will close the open curiosity to some degree of satisfaction? I am being purposefully vague for those that have yet to see the movie. Considering that the MCU never even mentions the material the hammer is made of, I don't quite see any curiosity coming up here. Unless I'm missing something... Besides, I really thought it would be common knowledge by now what Mjolnir is actually made of: |
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Post by NorrinRaddOfZennla on Nov 14, 2017 20:42:17 GMT
I'm not really sure what you mean - perhaps being less vague using spoiler tags? Are you thinking someone finds the Uru and makes something out of it? Or would the enchantment still exist on the shards of Mjolnir so that nobody could lift the pieces if they found them? Every non-earthly artifact and article appears to have been found on earth and used. The Destroyer armor, DNA of a Kree, the Diviners, The Portal, the Berserker Staff, the Tesseract, Chitauri DNA, Chitauri Weapons, etc. If it was left on Earth someone finds it, harnesses it and uses it. In print canon Tony Stark builds a couple of different armors; Thor Busters are an example (gawd is Tony Stark over powered in print and within the MCU.. but that is a different rant). Giving him, SHIELD or any other character access to Uru metal is a disaster just waiting to be found. As a fan of the MCU it is a minor nitpick for me when Marvel/Disney just forgets those little tidbits even exist. |
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Post by haxemon on Nov 14, 2017 22:26:11 GMT
Every non-earthly artifact and article appears to have been found on earth and used. The Destroyer armor, DNA of a Kree, the Diviners, The Portal, the Berserker Staff, the Tesseract, Chitauri DNA, Chitauri Weapons, etc. If it was left on Earth someone finds it, harnesses it and uses it. In print canon Tony Stark builds a couple of different armors; Thor Busters are an example (gawd is Tony Stark over powered in print and within the MCU.. but that is a different rant). Giving him, SHIELD or any other character access to Uru metal is a disaster just waiting to be found. As a fan of the MCU it is a minor nitpick for me when Marvel/Disney just forgets those little tidbits even exist. I think this is subtly different though. First it would be small chunks of the uru, not some salvageable weapon or something. Secondly even if someone happened upon all of it and collected it, perhaps uru can't be smelted or manipulated at all so they'd be reduced to trying to weld it to something else in chunk/shard form. Not really as useful. And who's to say that when Odin's spell was lifted from Mjolnir that the uru doesn't atomize or something? I mean, I can see a path they *could* follow with it if they wanted to, but it's not quite the same as a portal being left behind that still works or a Chitauri weapon laying on Park Avenue. |
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Post by NorrinRaddOfZennla on Nov 15, 2017 0:32:36 GMT
Every non-earthly artifact and article appears to have been found on earth and used. The Destroyer armor, DNA of a Kree, the Diviners, The Portal, the Berserker Staff, the Tesseract, Chitauri DNA, Chitauri Weapons, etc. If it was left on Earth someone finds it, harnesses it and uses it. In print canon Tony Stark builds a couple of different armors; Thor Busters are an example (gawd is Tony Stark over powered in print and within the MCU.. but that is a different rant). Giving him, SHIELD or any other character access to Uru metal is a disaster just waiting to be found. As a fan of the MCU it is a minor nitpick for me when Marvel/Disney just forgets those little tidbits even exist. I think this is subtly different though. First it would be small chunks of the uru, not some salvageable weapon or something. Secondly even if someone happened upon all of it and collected it, perhaps uru can't be smelted or manipulated at all so they'd be reduced to trying to weld it to something else in chunk/shard form. Not really as useful. And who's to say that when Odin's spell was lifted from Mjolnir that the uru doesn't atomize or something? I mean, I can see a path they *could* follow with it if they wanted to, but it's not quite the same as a portal being left behind that still works or a Chitauri weapon laying on Park Avenue. Does Odin's enchantment over the 'hammer' continue even after his death? I would think that even small amounts of Uru metal would have some value story wise as there was NONE on Earth, until now. Even if it's just for laughs watching locals attempting to pick up pieces and failing!! Oh well.. |
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Post by haxemon on Nov 15, 2017 13:47:58 GMT
Does Odin's enchantment over the 'hammer' continue even after his death? I would think that even small amounts of Uru metal would have some value story wise as there was NONE on Earth, until now. Even if it's just for laughs watching locals attempting to pick up pieces and failing!! Oh well.. Yeah like I said, there's an option there if they want to use it. It sounded (maybe just to me) that you were suggesting it was a major unanswered question or something. But yes, certainly they could come back to it in a small way or even a big way if they wanted to. |
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Nov 30, 2017 23:39:03 GMT
...But introduces another. The Infinity Gauntlet has a cameo in this movie and the event that transpires explains all and signals something about Odin. The next new wrinkle in a long standing series of wrinkles is Thor's hammer. From the trailer we know it gets destroyed. The enchantment not withstanding Uru is a precious mineral that has it's own potential besides being quite rare. Hopefully the MCU will close the open curiosity to some degree of satisfaction? I am being purposefully vague for those that have yet to see the movie. Considering that the MCU never even mentions the material the hammer is made of, I don't quite see any curiosity coming up here. Unless I'm missing something... Besides, I really thought it would be common knowledge by now what Mjolnir is actually made of: Doesn't Thor say his Hammer was made "out of the heart of a dying star"? |
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Post by haxemon on Dec 1, 2017 13:55:41 GMT
Doesn't Thor say his Hammer was made "out of the heart of a dying star"? That's Odin in the first Thor when they have the first try at Thor's coronation. And I think it's "forged in the heart of a dying star" which could be subtly different (and given it's Odin speaking could be entirely BS). Odin sort of falls into the Charles Xavier category in Marvel lore in that he's got a history of lying when he feels like it which makes retcons easier for writers. |
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I'll be spending next weekend with some family I like and trying to avoid any remotely controversial conversations with others that I spend the rest of the year avoiding 