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Post by ayanami on Nov 9, 2017 19:24:08 GMT
What if that ship that appears in front of Thor and Loki at the end of the movie is the same on Coulson (and the team?) is currently on? Going by the time frame, a crossover with Shield's S5 space plotline would make sense, seeing as they'll lead right up to Infinity War, where we'll see Thor and Loki again. Coulson's return to the movies has been a highly discussed topic for years; now wouldn't this be an awesome way to do it?? Personally, I would just love to see Thor's face when he meets the presumably dead Son of Coul on an alien spaceship of all places!  Oh, and Loki of course!!!!!!! I assume Coulson would have quite the different opinion than Thor, in regard to the question whether it's a good idea to bring Loki back to earth of not.  |
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Post by nillindeiel on Nov 9, 2017 20:51:58 GMT
While nice/fun... I'd be really really really surprised/shocked if it were. Rumor has it that ship is Thanos' ship |
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Post by ayanami on Nov 9, 2017 21:01:42 GMT
While nice/fun... I'd be really really really surprised/shocked if it were. Rumor has it that ship is Thanos' ship Yeah, that seems to be the most obvious guess, what with IW on the horizon. But at the same time, I can't help but wonder if Marvel might have had another motive to keep AoS on the air other than general advertisement and brand visibility. Who knows what they've got cooking? Plus, who says it can't be one and the same?! |
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Post by aquaangel on Nov 10, 2017 3:02:02 GMT
I love this idea. I'd love to see how May would react to Loki since he killed Phil originally.
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Post by haxemon on Nov 10, 2017 14:04:12 GMT
Personally, I would just love to see Thor's face when he meets the presumably dead Son of Coul on an alien spaceship of all places! Honestly, just like it's 100% to me that Coulson is "alive in the movies", it's pretty much impossible that the Avengers aren't aware by now. Marvel really should have done a one-shot, scene in AoS, viral video or SOMETHING a long time ago to acknowledge that sometime during Season 1 of AoS or CA:TWS or something the news reached the Avengers. I get that they're paranoid of popcorn munchers feeling like the MCU is "required viewing" and getting scared off, but they should have tied up this loose end somehow a long time ago. |
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Post by ayanami on Nov 10, 2017 16:48:55 GMT
Personally, I would just love to see Thor's face when he meets the presumably dead Son of Coul on an alien spaceship of all places! Honestly, just like it's 100% to me that Coulson is "alive in the movies", it's pretty much impossible that the Avengers aren't aware by now. Marvel really should have done a one-shot, scene in AoS, viral video or SOMETHING a long time ago to acknowledge that sometime during Season 1 of AoS or CA:TWS or something the news reached the Avengers. I get that they're paranoid of popcorn munchers feeling like the MCU is "required viewing" and getting scared off, but they should have tied up this loose end somehow a long time ago. On the one hand, I absolutely agree with you, that Marvel shouldn't have dragged this out the way they did and thereby only made it a problem in the first place. But then again, I really don't know whether the Avengers do know or not. Tony maybe knows, but the others? After all, the show pretty much bent over backwards to still keep up the pretence that Coulson's existence is a secret. First as leader of his own little group, then leading Shield from the shadows, even have Mace step in as director. Bonus points for Coulson telling Lady Sif that he'd rather tell Thor himself that he's still alive. Aside from the one time that Shield was framed for attacking the U.N. - at a time when Talbot knew that Coulson was in charge of what was left of the organisation, and therefore should have had his face plastered all over the news - which AoS/Marvel simply decided to completely ignore, they made pretty damn certain to keep up the pretence. |
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Post by haxemon on Nov 10, 2017 17:31:48 GMT
On the one hand, I absolutely agree with you, that Marvel shouldn't have dragged this out the way they did and thereby only made it a problem in the first place. But then again, I really don't know whether the Avengers do know or not. Tony maybe knows, but the others? After all, the show pretty much bent over backwards to still keep up the pretence that Coulson's existence is a secret. First as leader of his own little group, then leading Shield from the shadows, even have Mace step in as director. Bonus points for Coulson telling Lady Sif that he'd rather tell Thor himself that he's still alive. Aside from the one time that Shield was framed for attacking the U.N. - at a time when Talbot knew that Coulson was in charge of what was left of the organisation, and therefore should have had his face plastered all over the news - which AoS/Marvel simply decided to completely ignore, they made pretty damn certain to keep up the pretence. Well yes there's lots of wiggle room for when any of the Avengers might have found out. And that's sort of part of the problem too I guess. I just really can't buy that none of them know by now. If so, Coulson's a dick. I can see him waiting for sure. I can see Thor not knowing yet since he's kind of a self-centered jerk most of the time (and off world). But Tony and Phil were friends by the time Avengers rolled around - planning to fly in his gf etc. So other than laying low for a while, being busy, wanting to tell people himself etc. there's no really great reason why none of the Avengers know by now. Phil and Nat were coworkers and familiar enough too. So again, I can see a couple of them not knowing yet or finding out really late (so maybe the initial thought of Thor finding out next film could happen) but it's a stretch for me. |
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Post by ayanami on Nov 10, 2017 17:56:43 GMT
On the one hand, I absolutely agree with you, that Marvel shouldn't have dragged this out the way they did and thereby only made it a problem in the first place. But then again, I really don't know whether the Avengers do know or not. Tony maybe knows, but the others? After all, the show pretty much bent over backwards to still keep up the pretence that Coulson's existence is a secret. First as leader of his own little group, then leading Shield from the shadows, even have Mace step in as director. Bonus points for Coulson telling Lady Sif that he'd rather tell Thor himself that he's still alive. Aside from the one time that Shield was framed for attacking the U.N. - at a time when Talbot knew that Coulson was in charge of what was left of the organisation, and therefore should have had his face plastered all over the news - which AoS/Marvel simply decided to completely ignore, they made pretty damn certain to keep up the pretence. Well yes there's lots of wiggle room for when any of the Avengers might have found out. And that's sort of part of the problem too I guess. I just really can't buy that none of them know by now. If so, Coulson's a dick. I can see him waiting for sure. I can see Thor not knowing yet since he's kind of a self-centered jerk most of the time (and off world). But Tony and Phil were friends by the time Avengers rolled around - planning to fly in his gf etc. So other than laying low for a while, being busy, wanting to tell people himself etc. there's no really great reason why none of the Avengers know by now. Phil and Nat were coworkers and familiar enough too. So again, I can see a couple of them not knowing yet or finding out really late (so maybe the initial thought of Thor finding out next film could happen) but it's a stretch for me. Honestly, I can't give you any logical in-world explanation, either, because I'm drawing a complete blank here. Aside from the RL reasons - casual fans, wanting to keep the impact and "integrity" of the death scene in the movies, impracticability to do a crossover,... - that we've all discussed to exhaustion by now, I don't really see any reason why Coulson's resurrection should have been kept from the Avengers in the first place. Okay, maybe not give them a call week one, but beyond that, it's just stupid! Still, even by the time Age of Ultron came around, Coulson made damn certain to only give the Avengers intel via Maria Hill, and not in person, so he must have had some reason, no matter how obscure it may be. I'm only inclined to believe Tony knows, because he's a genius with a penchant to look for (Shield's) secrets, so he might have found out. That would pose the question why he didn't share that knowledge with the others (particularly Steve), though, so if Marvel decides to bring Coulson back, the might go with none of the Avengers knowing, only if not to cause any frictions over the issue. Unless, of course, they would want to use it precisely for that purpose...  "I just really can't buy that none of them know by now. If so, Coulson's a dick." - Well, I thought that one was a given! |
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Post by haxemon on Nov 10, 2017 19:40:52 GMT
so if Marvel decides to bring Coulson back, the might go with none of the Avengers knowing Yeah they really painted themselves into a bit of a corner. My ideal scenario would be a flashback of some kind where the Avengers get the news. Maybe with JARVIS poking through what Nat released to the world and letting Stark know and then do a bunch of scenes with word spreading or something. Would work perfectly as a one-shot and/or part of some viral marketing for Infinity War. |
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Oh, and Loki of course!!!!!!! 
