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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Feb 22, 2017 6:46:21 GMT
(Spoilers!!!!!)
Simmons made Fitz cut his own wrists.
LMD Fitz choked Simmoms.
Daisy went The Last Airbender on LMD Coulson and Mack.
LMD May just blew up the base.
Daisy, Simmons, Piper, and a few agents have absconded with the Zephyr leaving the base a burning pile of rubble.
Daisy and Simmons have entered a Framework world run by HYDRA.
A relationship that will never happen because Daisy is moral enough not to date an actual Nazi... is canon.
Coulson is a racist teacher.
Fitz and Simmons are like Tony Stark.
Hope Mackenzie is most likely Alive.
And Real May is leader of HYDRA.
AIDA has the Superior's head in a jar but his consciousness in a Darth Vader body.
WHAT THE HELL DID I JUST WATCH!? SERIOUSLY???
I legit can not fathom my feelings for this episode. For some reasons I want to hate it and for others I want to love it.
This episode had me considering *my reality* in that I actually had to get up and take a walk into the kitchen a few times just because I thought I might be dreaming or something.
There's so much to like but then there are sooo many problems.
God damn it, what did I just watch?
*Bangs head in overwhelming frustration while screaming*
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Post by pumpyjones on Feb 22, 2017 10:19:17 GMT
That was not Simmons! Jemma is dead in the framework - remember the gravestone? Fitz is Tony Stark with some other hot chick as his girlfriend (please let it be Bobbi!).
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Post by Jemma Simmons on Feb 22, 2017 10:27:00 GMT
That was not Simmons! Jemma is dead in the framework - remember the gravestone? Fitz is Tony Stark with some other hot chick as his girlfriend (please let it be Bobbi!). I'm not sure that's true about being dead in the framework. Before the little Maytrix trip, they said they identified the data that represented them. Unless I get to relax by being a corpse the last few weeks, something else is going on there. |
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Post by aquaangel on Feb 22, 2017 12:37:51 GMT
What if the person with Fitz is Jemma in disguise (cause she's faking her death)? or what if it's Aida?
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Post by koos on Feb 22, 2017 13:44:23 GMT
(Spoilers!!!!!) Daisy and Simmons have entered a Framework world run by HYDRA. A relationship that will never happen because Daisy is moral enough not to date an actual Nazi... is canon. Coulson is a racist teacher. And Real May is leader of HYDRA. Clearly A relationship that will never happen because Daisy is moral enough not to date an actual Nazi... is the worst of this list  |
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Post by terminator22 on Feb 22, 2017 14:39:37 GMT
I will get flamed for saying this, but I've always preferred Ward over Lincoln. It was nice to see Daisy with Ward in the framework!
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Post by Hari Seldon on Feb 22, 2017 15:21:47 GMT
What if the person with Fitz is Jemma in disguise (cause she's faking her death)? or what if it's Aida? What if Jemma is dead in the Framework so her mind went into Ward's body - it would be an odd twist for those who used to root for Skymmons.  |
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Post by koos on Feb 22, 2017 15:53:50 GMT
All these things happens with people without one regret. I wonder what that regret would be for each of them.
I am only mistified by daisy, because she entered the framework without anything changed and knowing it is fake. What happened that she ended up with this life. Or Simmons dead?
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Post by koos on Feb 22, 2017 15:57:37 GMT
What if the person with Fitz is Jemma in disguise (cause she's faking her death)? or what if it's Aida? What if Jemma is dead in the Framework so her mind went into Ward's body - it would be an odd twist for those who used to root for Skymmons. The episode is big om Skimmons anyway. I am disappointed that it turned out be Fitz to be an LMD. I really had hoped for a kickass episode with him and Simmons as the nerds fighting evil robots AND it is Fitz versus Radcliffe/AIDA. At least he ends up being a rich, as I always thought he woul become if he had left Shield. |
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Post by nillindeiel on Feb 22, 2017 16:05:06 GMT
All these things happens with people without one regret. I wonder what that regret would be for each of them. I am only mistified by daisy, because she entered the framework without anything changed and knowing it is fake. What happened that she ended up with this life. Or Simmons dead?Mentioned this in my response to b4icuhang in the other thread (so I'll just copy/paste) I might be wrong... but the thing to remember about the 'regret' thing was that that was Aida who removed one regret for those that had been placed in the Framework (she says as much to Radcliffe). Since Aida had no part in Daisy and Jemma hacking in, their situations might not be in regards to any regrets that they personally had/have. Their situations might have to do more with the changes that occurred when Aida removed the regrets of the others that Aida did have control over (so May, Coulson, Mack, Mace and Fitz). Good ol' butterfly effect (and I suspect that Coulson never being a SHIELD agent is probably the one that's been causing the greatest disparity from the real events of the MCU) |
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Post by koos on Feb 22, 2017 16:13:42 GMT
All these things happens with people without one regret. I wonder what that regret would be for each of them. I am only mistified by daisy, because she entered the framework without anything changed and knowing it is fake. What happened that she ended up with this life. Or Simmons dead?Mentioned this in my response to b4icuhang in the other thread (so I'll just copy/paste) I might be wrong... but the thing to remember about the 'regret' thing was that that was Aida who removed one regret for those that had been placed in the Framework (she says as much to Radcliffe). Since Aida had no part in Daisy and Jemma hacking in, their situations might not be in regards to any regrets that they personally had/have. Their situations might have to do more with the changes that occurred when Aida removed the regrets of the others that Aida did have control over (so May, Coulson, Mack, Mace and Fitz). Good ol' butterfly effect (and I suspect that Coulson never being a SHIELD agent is probably the one that's been causing the greatest disparity from the real events of the MCU) Butterfly explains a big part of it. Though there are many questions to be made about that. For example Daisy came into shield thanks to Coulson. How in such a big world could she even have met Ward. But there is more. Why would Daisy end up as Daisy in the first place? AIDA probably pre-programmed her life. But she still entered the framework in a unconventional way. I like the idea wrt that notion that Simmons had ended up as Ward. |
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Post by Hari Seldon on Feb 22, 2017 16:55:17 GMT
How in such a big world could she even have met Ward. But there is more. Why would Daisy end up as Daisy in the first place? Probably the same way she met Ward in the real world, or at least similar. If they're going for a twist, it'll probably be that she recruited him into her Rising Tide group. I'm betting she's still Skye in the Framework. |
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Post by koos on Feb 22, 2017 17:32:06 GMT
I don't think Daisy ended up with Ward as a result of a butterfly effect. I think AIDA specifically programmed this. Or, as a true horror scenario, it was is what really makes her happy.
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Post by pumpyjones on Feb 22, 2017 18:59:22 GMT
That was not Simmons! Jemma is dead in the framework - remember the gravestone? Fitz is Tony Stark with some other hot chick as his girlfriend (please let it be Bobbi!). I'm not sure that's true about being dead in the framework. Before the little Maytrix trip, they said they identified the data that represented them. Unless I get to relax by being a corpse the last few weeks, something else is going on there. You're biding your time... |
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Post by pumpyjones on Feb 22, 2017 19:01:43 GMT
Maybe she 'loved' Ward and they got closer sooner, so he never did the Winter Soldier arc and chose her instead?
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