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Post by DoTheMath on Aug 11, 2017 4:08:03 GMT
aquaangel, are you caught up, or did you give up? Finale is Monday 8/14.
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Aug 11, 2017 11:31:29 GMT
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Post by aquaangel on Aug 11, 2017 11:31:29 GMT
I haven't given up, but I haven't had time to watch the episodes yet either. I was going to get caught up last week, but I had a friend staying over cause their air conditioner was busted. I'm still four behind on Salvation too (I will probably give that one up to be honest).
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Post by DoTheMath on Aug 11, 2017 13:19:55 GMT
I haven't given up, but I haven't had time to watch the episodes yet either. I was going to get caught up last week, but I had a friend staying over cause their air conditioner was busted. I'm still four behind on Salvation too (I will probably give that one up to be honest). I predict you'll have an enjoyable Stitchers binge. Some ups and some downs, but you'll enjoy the ride. As for Salvation, I only watched the first ep and a few mins of the second. For me, it was so bad I couldn't even comply with my three ep rule.
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Aug 11, 2017 14:42:30 GMT
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Post by aquaangel on Aug 11, 2017 14:42:30 GMT
I haven't given up, but I haven't had time to watch the episodes yet either. I was going to get caught up last week, but I had a friend staying over cause their air conditioner was busted. I'm still four behind on Salvation too (I will probably give that one up to be honest). I predict you'll have an enjoyable Stitchers binge. Some ups and some downs, but you'll enjoy the ride. As for Salvation, I only watched the first ep and a few mins of the second. For me, it was so bad I couldn't even comply with my three ep rule. I usually use a three ep rule myself. Unfortunately, I had to give up Hooten & the lady because they moved it from Thursday's to Monday's. I already have four shows on Mondays. Why'd they move it to a busy night? I like Michael Landes, but the show itself was just okay. So not a huge loss. Maybe they'll put it on DVD. It's only eight eps.
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Aug 16, 2017 15:43:01 GMT
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Post by aquaangel on Aug 16, 2017 15:43:01 GMT
What the actual heck?!! Haven't watched the ep, but saw the Stitchers tumblr page. Someone is making Kirsten pretend to not remember Cameron? Why? What possible reason could there be for this crap? Other than the writers secretly want to write soaps? Seriously, ditch these writers and let them got to NBC, CBS or ABC soaps! I'm sick of this soap opera bs on what is supposed to be a damn procedural show! Considering Kirsten said "I will never forgive you" to whomever is making her do this, it's not Cam's mom like some fans are theorizing. She doesn't know her enough to say that to her. It has to be Maggie or Daniel, right? Most likely Maggie. Either way, this storyline is beyond idiotic in my opinion and these writers need to hit the road like Jack. Give us some new writers who won't write this show like it's some damn teen soap. This ain't Degrassi for crying out loud. At this point, if the same writers stay, I'm not sure I will. I'm tired of the soapy angst. That has seemingly been the focus this season and it's annoying af! I'm fine with a little angst, but nearly the whole season? Ugh! I'm very close to being done. If it even gets a fourth season. At this point, I'm not sure if I want it to, to be honest. For the most part they've done nothing but annoy the hell out of me almost the entire season.
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Post by DoTheMath on Aug 16, 2017 16:04:46 GMT
What the actual heck?!! Haven't watched the ep, but saw the Stitchers tumblr page. Someone is making Kirsten pretend to not remember Cameron? Why? What possible reason could there be for this crap? Other than the writers secretly want to write soaps? Seriously, ditch these writers and let them got to NBC, CBS or ABC soaps! I'm sick of this soap opera bs on what is supposed to be a damn procedural show! Considering Kirsten said "I will never forgive you" to whomever is making her do this, it's not Cam's mom like some fans are theorizing. She doesn't know her enough to say that to her. It has to be Maggie or Daniel, right? Most likely Maggie. Either way, this storyline is beyond idiotic in my opinion and these writers need to hit the road like Jack. Give us some new writers who won't write this show like it's some damn teen soap. This ain't Degrassi for crying out loud. At this point, if the same writers stay, I'm not sure I will. I'm tired of the soapy angst. That has seemingly been the focus this season and it's annoying af! I'm fine with a little angst, but nearly the whole season? Ugh! I'm very close to being done. If it even gets a fourth season. At this point, I'm not sure if I want it to, to be honest. For the most part they've done nothing but annoy the hell out of me almost the entire season. My guess is Maggie (or her Mom). She was already to the point of never forgiving Stinger so I figure Maggie or Jocelyn. Maggie is my top choice because I don't believe Mommie was in the lab at that time. When you watch it, you see a shadow go across Kirsten like someone was actually there out of frame. Plus with all the "trust" stuff coming from Maggie during the last few eps, I figure it's Maggie. Why they're doing it? I have no F'n clue (but can't wait to find out). As for the angst/drama...... It's Freeform. That's what they do. I'm more upset about the Camanda moving in together. Really? Camille sings her a song, the sleep together and Amanda says "let's move in together?" GTFO. The immediacy of Camanda since S3E2 has made no sense. No explanation of the Camus split and all of a sudden Linus is all about Ivy and Camille is all about Amanda. That whole thing was poorly done. Camsten doesn't surprise me a bit. They've been screwing with them since the beginning (I'm kinda used to it)........ but, what they've done with Camille is poor writing. They went from great character development to character devolution with Camille and that pisses me off because it changed her dynamic with the group and the group dynamic is what I like most about the show. Fisher dumping his bride because Maggie wants to hook up is a bit surprising as well. Don't really mind as I've been expecting it for a couple seasons, but Fisher seemed all about getting back with the Mrs. Her move to DC was a good way to dissolve the matter, but making Maggie's comment the deciding factor wasn't necessary. They could have waited until next season to spark that fire. Fishy better be careful, though........ we still don't know everything about Maggie. At least Ivy is good. I hope Linus can find happiness with her as the guy deserves a break.
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Aug 16, 2017 18:21:45 GMT
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Post by aquaangel on Aug 16, 2017 18:21:45 GMT
Honestly, I would have been less annoyed if Kirsten had actually forgotten Cameron than this being forced to pretend she has crap. Camanda was quick. I mean, they went at least a little slower with Linus/Ivy. Yeah, moving in is kind of quick. I understand most of Freeform's shows are dramas... I've just had it up to here this year with procedural shows having way too much drama and either long way too drawn out storylines (Criminal Minds' Reid in jail storyline that lasted something like nine episodes) and this show with way too much "let's give the audience Camsten, take it away for a few eps, give it back and then take it away again in the finale" all in one season... A season which, mind you only has like twelve episodes or something. It's just beyond ridiculous. It isn't enjoyable, it doesn't make the show more exciting, it's just irritating.
And if Maggie is the one keeping Camsten apart, then she doesn't deserve Fisher and she should be removed from the program like whatshisface.
If they want to do storylines like this, then they should just go ahead and make this show a daily soap opera.
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Post by DoTheMath on Aug 16, 2017 18:53:32 GMT
Honestly, I would have been less annoyed if Kirsten had actually forgotten Cameron than this being forced to pretend she has crap. Camanda was quick. I mean, they went at least a little slower with Linus/Ivy. Yeah, moving in is kind of quick. I understand most of Freeform's shows are dramas... I've just had it up to here this year with procedural shows having way too much drama and either long way too drawn out storylines (Criminal Minds' Reid in jail storyline that lasted something like nine episodes) and this show with way too much "let's give the audience Camsten, take it away for a few eps, give it back and then take it away again in the finale" all in one season... A season which, mind you only has like twelve episodes or something. It's just beyond ridiculous. It isn't enjoyable, it doesn't make the show more exciting, it's just irritating. And if Maggie is the one keeping Camsten apart, then she doesn't deserve Fisher and she should be removed from the program like whatshisface. If they want to do storylines like this, then they should just go ahead and make this show a daily soap opera. Seems like someone needs to visit the "venting thread" ....... I feel ya, but I like the overall story too much to let the shipping bother me. My issue with Camanda/Camus isn't the shipping, it's the way they, IMO, devolved Camille. Also how Linus and Camille were tight end of S2 and Camille was a huge support mechanism for him when his dad was in hosp. Then in S3......... it's like that sh1t didn't happen; just a brief moment of concern from Camille when Linus' dad died (plus, not much of a grief period for Linus either). It's all inconsistent. That's what bothers me. All-in-all, I still like the show and will stick with it to see where they go from here. It seems that stitching into Jacqueline (don't know where I got Jocelyn earlier....) wasn't the end-game, so I want to see what they come up with for the Stitchers Program going forward.
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Aug 17, 2017 13:10:04 GMT
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Post by aquaangel on Aug 17, 2017 13:10:04 GMT
Didn't Camus keep saying they were just friends with benefits? Though, I do believe it was more for Linus. Not sure about Camille. I think she is, or was halfway afraid of falling in love.
Did the Camsten scene where she asked how his heart was (and when he said it hurts a little, she said it'll get better, I promise) resemble the scene with young Camsten in the hospital (from when Kirsten stitched Cam)? It kind of reminded me of that scene.
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Post by DoTheMath on Aug 17, 2017 16:05:50 GMT
Didn't Camus keep saying they were just friends with benefits? Though, I do believe it was more for Linus. Not sure about Camille. I think she is, or was halfway afraid of falling in love. Did the Camsten scene where she asked how his heart was (and when he said it hurts a little, she said it'll get better, I promise) resemble the scene with young Camsten in the hospital (from when Kirsten stitched Cam)? It kind of reminded me of that scene. Yeah, they were FBs and Linus wanted more. It's just that the transitions early in S3 didn't seem fluid. Everything about them was fluid until S3E2 then....... WTF? Just didn't work for me the way the writers did that. Granted, it's only a 10 ep season and they had a lot to do, but....... they coulda done it better. Yeah, I got the same vibe, like Kirsten was using his own words from childhood to soothe him. That was a nice touch. I watched it again last light and I think it's def Maggie that's making K fake the memory loss. I think, for some reason, Maggie is doin it to protect Kirsten in some way. It's not about keeping them apart (that's just collateral damage of the plan) but for some reason, Maggie needs K to pretend she has memory loss to protect her from something (probably the NSA).
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Post by Hari Seldon on Sept 15, 2017 18:11:05 GMT
Didn't Camus keep saying they were just friends with benefits? Though, I do believe it was more for Linus. Not sure about Camille. I think she is, or was halfway afraid of falling in love. Did the Camsten scene where she asked how his heart was (and when he said it hurts a little, she said it'll get better, I promise) resemble the scene with young Camsten in the hospital (from when Kirsten stitched Cam)? It kind of reminded me of that scene. Yeah, they were FBs and Linus wanted more. It's just that the transitions early in S3 didn't seem fluid. Everything about them was fluid until S3E2 then....... WTF? Just didn't work for me the way the writers did that. Granted, it's only a 10 ep season and they had a lot to do, but....... they coulda done it better. Yeah, I got the same vibe, like Kirsten was using his own words from childhood to soothe him. That was a nice touch. I watched it again last light and I think it's def Maggie that's making K fake the memory loss. I think, for some reason, Maggie is doin it to protect Kirsten in some way. It's not about keeping them apart (that's just collateral damage of the plan) but for some reason, Maggie needs K to pretend she has memory loss to protect her from something (probably the NSA). Hi. I just caught up to the end of season 3. I wouldn't say I binge watched, but it was certainly an accelerated pace, and I'm ready to join in here. Linus&Camilla: Camilla wanted no strings sex, Linus wanted a relationship, definitely. However, they were in a state of having broken it off before she met his parents. When she met his parents, she did everything opposite of what Linus said to do, I believe in order to make his parents not like her, but she ended up liking them. The moving on to other people was still abrupt and rather convenient in the way it happened at the same time for both of them. Cameron&Kirsten: Seemed a bit forced from the start. A bit predictable and the soapy relationship problems only made me want to hit the ff button. Kyle Harris did look like he bulked up a bit between the second and third seasons and I thought maybe the no sex bit was to get Cameron's exercising to be a regular thing in order to explain it. The ending: Maggie would be a letdown as there was absolutely no reason they wouldn't show her in the shot. It needs to be someone we aren't supposed to be expecting. I wouldn't mind it being Blaine, since he was ousted off-screen. A crazy idea that came to me was Linus' mother - his parents knew all about the program without him knowing about it until just before his dad died, and their hiding it from him just seems a bit odd. I'd say not the Admiral for the same reason as Maggie. Cameron's mother: A bit odd. Cameron said he got her to examine Kirsten completely off the books, but during the final stitch he spoke up about the anomaly that was found and Maggie didn't even raise an eyebrow. Then there's the part where they called to have her brought down after the final stitch to examine again, so she was on site and again there were no raised eyebrows.
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Post by DoTheMath on Sept 15, 2017 23:18:12 GMT
I guess we'll never know who it was that made Kirsten lie......
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Sept 16, 2017 0:30:37 GMT
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Post by aquaangel on Sept 16, 2017 0:30:37 GMT
Can't say I'm surprised. Season 3 was just barely renewed. A fourth season was really a longshot. It annoys me that they did a cliff (and such an irritating one that left too many questions) when they knew there was a high chance of cancelation. They could have had a closure ending, then if they got a season four, done a mid break (like other Freeform shows have) and then introduce this cliffhanger. You shouldn't do huge cliffs unless you know without a doubt that you're getting another season. When will writers/show runners learn this lesson?
As for who made her lie, judging by the line "I will never forgive you for this", I'd say that rules Blaine out. That line implies that it's someone she somewhat liked, someone who may care that she won't forgive them. She hated Blaine, so it being him would have ticked me off. If it was Cam's mom, she likely would have said "he will never forgive you when he finds out what you're making me do". She doesn't know Cam's mom that well. However, I could have dealt with that based on the whole "she might be her mom-in-law someday" thing. Linus' mom? Nah. No reason for her to do it, plus I'm not sure Kirsten really knows her enough to say she'll never forgive her.
It could be one of Kirsten's parents or possibly Ivy. Maggie is a bit obvious, but really the only one that makes sense besides a relative of Kirsten's. Though there is one possibility that would be shocking, yet possibly believable. Ayo, the medical person on the team. If there was a medical reason (like the thing with their emotions messing with the stitches and putting her in danger), then I could see that being something Ayo might do.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Sept 17, 2017 4:24:25 GMT
Linus' mom? Nah. No reason for her to do it, plus I'm not sure Kirsten really knows her enough to say she'll never forgive her. I said it was a crazy idea. It would be the old "person at the top of the chain hiding in plain sight" trope. True that Kirsten doesn't really know her - I'm not sure the two of them have even met in person - but I'm sure she's heard nothing but praise about her from Camille. I made it up out of left field just because Linus' parents having clearance to know about the project because they used to be "software engineers for the government" just didn't add up for me.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Sept 17, 2017 4:29:38 GMT
I guess we'll never know who it was that made Kirsten lie......
I'm betting the drop in viewers was because it drew a sci-fi audience and half of them were driven away because they turned the show into a big ship-fest. Everyone had to be paired off with each other.
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