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Post by beren44 on Jun 8, 2017 6:20:21 GMT
SO, we never found out who owned and operated the facility where the GH-325 was found! A rather huge dangling thread that the show has apparently just side-stepped.
Any thoughts? Think it will come back around eventually?
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Post by sigasahab on Jun 8, 2017 11:35:10 GMT
SO, we never found out who owned and operated the facility where the GH-325 was found! A rather huge dangling thread that the show has apparently just side-stepped. Any thoughts? Think it will come back around eventually? Logically, the facility has to be part of Nick Fury's off-the-books 'deep' SHIELD, like the other secret bases. Whether it is covered in the data in his Toolbox or not is another question. My impression is that he still has even deeper facilities and resources that Coulson doesn't know about
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Post by beren44 on Jun 8, 2017 13:17:09 GMT
SO, we never found out who owned and operated the facility where the GH-325 was found! A rather huge dangling thread that the show has apparently just side-stepped. Any thoughts? Think it will come back around eventually? Logically, the facility has to be part of Nick Fury's off-the-books 'deep' SHIELD, like the other secret bases. Whether it is covered in the data in his Toolbox or not is another question. My impression is that he still has even deeper facilities and resources that Coulson doesn't know about
Yes, I agree with you. I deleted the second half of my post before I posted, because I wanted to see what others thought without influencing anyone. Fury (and pre-dead Coulson, in charge of the TAHITI project) obviously knew about it. What prompted the post was, I really wonder if it will crop up in season 5, with Coulson now in space and everything. The Kree were hanging out in space, watching and waiting. And the GH lab has never been explained. Probably unlikely that they will go that route, but it could make for some imaginative fan fiction ( Hint hint, caseyrook AKA Mechelle and ayanami  ) |
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Post by ayanami on Jun 8, 2017 14:30:02 GMT
Logically, the facility has to be part of Nick Fury's off-the-books 'deep' SHIELD, like the other secret bases. Whether it is covered in the data in his Toolbox or not is another question. My impression is that he still has even deeper facilities and resources that Coulson doesn't know about
Yes, I agree with you. I deleted the second half of my post before I posted, because I wanted to see what others thought without influencing anyone. Fury (and pre-dead Coulson, in charge of the TAHITI project) obviously knew about it. What prompted the post was, I really wonder if it will crop up in season 5, with Coulson now in space and everything. The Kree were hanging out in space, watching and waiting. And the GH lab has never been explained. Probably unlikely that they will go that route, but it could make for some imaginative fan fiction ( Hint hint, caseyrook AKA Mechelle and ayanami ) Sorry, I don't take prompts.   |
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Jun 8, 2017 14:43:18 GMT
SO, we never found out who owned and operated the facility where the GH-325 was found! A rather huge dangling thread that the show has apparently just side-stepped. Any thoughts? Think it will come back around eventually? That base was called 'The Guest House'. Inside the Guest House was TAHITI. I always thought it was just another one of SHIELD's most secret bases. And that that it had to be one of the most secret bases because, at the time (of season one), it was extremely important that Coulson not find out about it. I don't consider it a huge dangling thread. The only way I see the Guest House being brought up again is by TAHITI being a plot point, and even then, the Guest House is a pile of rubble so I can't see how'd it'd be a plot point again. Although, when you look back at it, all Coulson remembered of it was what he knew from the episode 'T.A.H.I.T.I.' and what he remembered from his two times in the Memory Machine. That is A LOT of missing data that was conveniently wiped from Coulson's brain. Which leads me to the thought I had earlier this season: what if Phil decides to seek out *everything* that was wiped from his memory? I've always felt that was a loose plot thread. There could very easily be more that Fury had wiped and Phil would be none the wiser because he has had no reason to realize it yet. (Because he only caught onto the missing memories regarding his "recovery" after catching onto his 'It's A Magical Place' trigger. That and Garret is an asshole.) I could see us getting to learn more about the Guest House if Coulson seeks out everything he once knew after something triggers that impulse. |
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Post by beren44 on Jun 8, 2017 14:57:35 GMT
Yes, I agree with you. I deleted the second half of my post before I posted, because I wanted to see what others thought without influencing anyone. Fury (and pre-dead Coulson, in charge of the TAHITI project) obviously knew about it. What prompted the post was, I really wonder if it will crop up in season 5, with Coulson now in space and everything. The Kree were hanging out in space, watching and waiting. And the GH lab has never been explained. Probably unlikely that they will go that route, but it could make for some imaginative fan fiction ( Hint hint, caseyrook AKA Mechelle and ayanami ) Sorry, I don't take prompts. You just gave a new meaning to the term, DWI.. I think it really stands for Diffuclt Woman Indeed! Maybe I should nudge you next time |
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Post by ayanami on Jun 8, 2017 15:35:47 GMT
Sorry, I don't take prompts. You just gave a new meaning to the term, DWI.. I think it really stands for Diffuclt Woman Indeed! Maybe I should nudge you next time I just had to look up what the actual meaning of DWI is. Driving While Intoxicated seems to be the most prominent one, but I'm gonna go with Deal With It instead.  |
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Post by beren44 on Jun 8, 2017 15:48:49 GMT
You just gave a new meaning to the term, DWI.. I think it really stands for Diffuclt Woman Indeed! Maybe I should nudge you next time I just had to look up what the actual meaning of DWI is. Driving While Intoxicated seems to be the most prominent one, but I'm gonna go with Deal With It instead. I am so gonna steal those smart-ass sunglasses from you!  To reply, yes, DWI is an extremely common term here, along with DUI -Driving Under the Influence. Honestly, with your strong command of English, I'm really surprised you had to look it up. I guess I just figured it was a well known term, worldwide. |
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Post by beren44 on Jun 8, 2017 16:32:24 GMT
SO, we never found out who owned and operated the facility where the GH-325 was found! A rather huge dangling thread that the show has apparently just side-stepped. Any thoughts? Think it will come back around eventually? That base was called 'The Guest House'. Inside the Guest House was TAHITI. I always thought it was just another one of SHIELD's most secret bases. And that that it had to be one of the most secret bases because, at the time (of season one), it was extremely important that Coulson not find out about it.B: So did I, for the same reasonsI don't consider it a huge dangling thread. The only way I see the Guest House being brought up again is by TAHITI being a plot point, and even then, the Guest House is a pile of rubble so I can't see how'd it'd be a plot point again. B: I didn't mean the facility itself, I just meant references to it as a plot point.
Although, when you look back at it, all Coulson remembered of it was what he knew from the episode 'T.A.H.I.T.I.' and what he remembered from his two times in the Memory Machine. That is A LOT of missing data that was conveniently wiped from Coulson's brain. Which leads me to the thought I had earlier this season: what if Phil decides to seek out *everything* that was wiped from his memory? I've always felt that was a loose plot thread. There could very easily be more that Fury had wiped and Phil would be none the wiser because he has had no reason to realize it yet. (Because he only caught onto the missing memories regarding his "recovery" after catching onto his 'It's A Magical Place' trigger. That and Garret is an asshole.) B: That is an extremely good point, and one that in, when the eventuality comes that AoS is over, it could make an excellent story for a movie, to finally tie the cinematic universe back into AoS. The show has done its part for sure, to be included, but I think it will take years to tie all the stories together.
Hence, I repeat: you fan fiction writers get busy! You may well be the next screenwriters in Hollywood, just believe in yourself!
I could see us getting to learn more about the Guest House if Coulson seeks out everything he once knew after something triggers that impulse. |
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Post by ayanami on Jun 8, 2017 16:32:28 GMT
I just had to look up what the actual meaning of DWI is. Driving While Intoxicated seems to be the most prominent one, but I'm gonna go with Deal With It instead. I am so gonna steal those smart-ass sunglasses from you! To reply, yes, DWI is an extremely common term here, along with DUI -Driving Under the Influence. Honestly, with your strong command of English, I'm really surprised you had to look it up. I guess I just figured it was a well known term, worldwide. I've heard DUI before in shows and movies, but never in real live (outside the internet). Not sure if it's used in the UK, but here people obviously use German terms when they talk about drunk drivers. Oh, and:  |
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Post by koos on Jun 8, 2017 16:55:57 GMT
SO, we never found out who owned and operated the facility where the GH-325 was found! A rather huge dangling thread that the show has apparently just side-stepped. Any thoughts? Think it will come back around eventually? That base was called 'The Guest House'. Inside the Guest House was TAHITI. I always thought it was just another one of SHIELD's most secret bases. And that that it had to be one of the most secret bases because, at the time (of season one), it was extremely important that Coulson not find out about it. I don't consider it a huge dangling thread. The only way I see the Guest House being brought up again is by TAHITI being a plot point, and even then, the Guest House is a pile of rubble so I can't see how'd it'd be a plot point again. Although, when you look back at it, all Coulson remembered of it was what he knew from the episode 'T.A.H.I.T.I.' and what he remembered from his two times in the Memory Machine. That is A LOT of missing data that was conveniently wiped from Coulson's brain. Which leads me to the thought I had earlier this season: what if Phil decides to seek out *everything* that was wiped from his memory? I've always felt that was a loose plot thread. There could very easily be more that Fury had wiped and Phil would be none the wiser because he has had no reason to realize it yet. (Because he only caught onto the missing memories regarding his "recovery" after catching onto his 'It's A Magical Place' trigger. That and Garret is an asshole.) I could see us getting to learn more about the Guest House if Coulson seeks out everything he once knew after something triggers that impulse. The Guest House wasn't a Shield facility. Coulson said this before they arrived, after Firz discovered its location. So, it has to be one of Fury's secret bases. |
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Jun 8, 2017 19:18:12 GMT
That base was called 'The Guest House'. Inside the Guest House was TAHITI. I always thought it was just another one of SHIELD's most secret bases. And that that it had to be one of the most secret bases because, at the time (of season one), it was extremely important that Coulson not find out about it. I don't consider it a huge dangling thread. The only way I see the Guest House being brought up again is by TAHITI being a plot point, and even then, the Guest House is a pile of rubble so I can't see how'd it'd be a plot point again. Although, when you look back at it, all Coulson remembered of it was what he knew from the episode 'T.A.H.I.T.I.' and what he remembered from his two times in the Memory Machine. That is A LOT of missing data that was conveniently wiped from Coulson's brain. Which leads me to the thought I had earlier this season: what if Phil decides to seek out *everything* that was wiped from his memory? I've always felt that was a loose plot thread. There could very easily be more that Fury had wiped and Phil would be none the wiser because he has had no reason to realize it yet. (Because he only caught onto the missing memories regarding his "recovery" after catching onto his 'It's A Magical Place' trigger. That and Garret is an asshole.) I could see us getting to learn more about the Guest House if Coulson seeks out everything he once knew after something triggers that impulse. The Guest House wasn't a Shield facility. Coulson said this before they arrived, after Firz discovered its location. So, it has to be one of Fury's secret bases. Providence was one of Fury's secret bases yet it was guarded by a SHIELD agent. I can still see how the Guest House could be considered a SHIELD facility, even if Coulson said it wasn't, especially since we know for sure that SHIELD had been using it. And any way, how would Coulson seriously know for sure it wasn't? Or how can we (the fans) know we can take him for his word? Fury literally had all of Coulson's knowledge of the base wiped. All that Coulson knew definitively at that time was that Fury and the TAHITI doctors wiped all of his memories of that base and the procedures it took to bring him back. Also that that Intel came three places: the Memory Machine, Dr. Streiten, and the Death and Recovery report. That's all we knew (and still know for the most part) too. I doubt Streiten knew anything about the base itself and we know he didn't get to say anything more to Coulson. I really don't see that Death and Recovery report including any details about the base itself. If it did, then Fitz and Simmons followed the paper trail for nothing. I'll watch the episode again so it's fresh in my mind but I know I've honestly just wrote that specific line of dialog off as Coulson going off his instincts and saying it wasn't a SHIELD base and being wrong. Looking back at all this though, the writers did an awesome job of giving us the enough of the full TAHITI story to satisfy us, yet still leave enough 'gaps' to make us think about these things all this time later. For instance: who took Coulson's position as the Leader of Project TAHITI when Coulson was the subject of it? We know for a fact he was taken out of the Interview room screaming "I NEED TO KNOW!" to someone on the other side of table. Was it Maria Hill? Fury himself? You could be right and it was just a base that Fury used with no real affiliation with SHIELD. I just think it's somewhat unlikely considering I can't see Fury putting that much trust into a third party. |
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Jun 8, 2017 21:37:25 GMT
That base was called 'The Guest House'. Inside the Guest House was TAHITI. I always thought it was just another one of SHIELD's most secret bases. And that that it had to be one of the most secret bases because, at the time (of season one), it was extremely important that Coulson not find out about it. I don't consider it a huge dangling thread. The only way I see the Guest House being brought up again is by TAHITI being a plot point, and even then, the Guest House is a pile of rubble so I can't see how'd it'd be a plot point again. Although, when you look back at it, all Coulson remembered of it was what he knew from the episode 'T.A.H.I.T.I.' and what he remembered from his two times in the Memory Machine. That is A LOT of missing data that was conveniently wiped from Coulson's brain. Which leads me to the thought I had earlier this season: what if Phil decides to seek out *everything* that was wiped from his memory? I've always felt that was a loose plot thread. There could very easily be more that Fury had wiped and Phil would be none the wiser because he has had no reason to realize it yet. (Because he only caught onto the missing memories regarding his "recovery" after catching onto his 'It's A Magical Place' trigger. That and Garret is an asshole.) I could see us getting to learn more about the Guest House if Coulson seeks out everything he once knew after something triggers that impulse. The Guest House wasn't a Shield facility. Coulson said this before they arrived, after Firz discovered its location. So, it has to be one of Fury's secret bases. Update: Okay, I've rewatched the episode. I thought of something I hadn't considered before: what if Coulson remembered the Guest House, and remembered that it wasn't a SHIELD installation, but didn't remember anything that would make him realize it's where his recovery took place? Like they looked for the file in his memory bank, selected everything about the base except for the title and hit delete so Coulson knew it existed but didn't know anything substantial about it because to him, it was just another rando base that SHIELD knew about for whatever reason? |
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Post by beren44 on Jun 8, 2017 22:05:21 GMT
caseyrook AKA Mechelle, I saw you say that you could not join the live rewatches. Is tuesdays and weekends just not going to work out for you ever? We would love to have you join us!
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Jun 8, 2017 23:49:43 GMT
caseyrook AKA Mechelle, I saw you say that you could not join the live rewatches. Is tuesdays and weekends just not going to work out for you ever? We would love to have you join us! Well, you know how I sometimes got to watch a new episode live and sometimes didn't? It's because of the same reason that I haven't been able to keep up with the live watches: my work schedule does not stay the same week to week and day to day (that's why we get our schedule for the entire next month weeks ahead of time) And even if I'm not working when you guys do it, i'm usually doing something that makes me forget. Now, if you guys had the live chat in a thread and not in the chat box, then I could join, it would just be a belated presence. |
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