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Post by backroadjunkie on Apr 19, 2017 3:07:34 GMT
Well, time to make my seasonal statement.
AIDA needs to die. Painfully. And slowly. And painfully. Not sure how that can be done, but it needs to be done.
How did May figure it out? (Or is she just turning against HYDRA when she saw the kids? Is it next Tuesday yet?
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Post by aquaangel on Apr 19, 2017 3:10:32 GMT
I think the thing with the kids made her turn. See, letting the girl live who then killed a bunch of other kids was supposed to be Hydra's reason for rounding up Inhumans. Now she knows that was a lie.
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Post by Jemma Simmons on Apr 19, 2017 3:29:49 GMT
I'm still upset that Mace was killed! |
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Post by backroadjunkie on Apr 19, 2017 3:37:51 GMT
I think it's more than that. While saving the kid, Coulson tells her "Snap out of it May!". Clearly Coulson (and Jemma) knows her. I'm pretty sure she suspects something is wrong. But either way, she really chose an awesome way to enlist some help...  |
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Post by aquaangel on Apr 19, 2017 3:54:17 GMT
Yeah that last scene was awesome.
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Post by backroadjunkie on Apr 19, 2017 4:41:47 GMT
I'm still upset that Mace was killed!
(Hey! How'd you get the hide function?) Yeah, it was at that point I decided AIDA needed to die. That and offering up Lincoln to Quake. Oh, and let me add that I hate that I like this Ward.  |
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Post by aquaangel on Apr 19, 2017 4:55:15 GMT
I'm still upset that Mace was killed!
(Hey! How'd you get the hide function?) Yeah, it was at that point I decided AIDA needed to die. That and offering up Lincoln to Quake. Oh, and let me add that I hate that I like this Ward. [ spoiler ] spoiler text goes here [ / spoiler ] without the spaces in the brackets. Since Mace is dead, does that mean that Ward is now Director of Framework Shield? |
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Post by koos on Apr 19, 2017 6:42:25 GMT
How did May figure it out? (Or is she just turning against HYDRA when she saw the kids? The children helped. I mean this May was prepared to save child when she shouldn't. but I think that it was Coulson that bruoght her back. |
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Post by koos on Apr 19, 2017 6:45:46 GMT
Well, time to make my seasonal statement. AIDA needs to die. Painfully. And slowly. And painfully. Not sure how that can be done, but it needs to be done. You can't blame her. It was just circumstances that made her evil. As a matter of fact, no one is a hero or evil. Just the wrong step out of bed makes one evil and with the right step you become a hero. That's the lesson we learned in this episode. |
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Post by backroadjunkie on Apr 19, 2017 12:31:03 GMT
Well, time to make my seasonal statement. AIDA needs to die. Painfully. And slowly. And painfully. Not sure how that can be done, but it needs to be done. You can't blame her. It was just circumstances that made her evil. As a matter of fact, no one is a hero or evil. Just the wrong step out of bed makes one evil and with the right step you become a hero. That's the lesson we learned in this episode. Can't blame her? Look at her decisions. Bringing in Fitz's father specifically to manipulate him. Bringing in Tripp, who Daisy always blamed herself for his death. (Notice Tripp's appearance coincides with Daisy's interrogation.) Making Jemma dead, the love of Fitz's life. Bringing down the building even though she knew Mace, Jemma and Coulson were inside, and actually killing Mace. Slitting Radcliffe's throat, then taking away anything of importance to him in the framework. Making May think she was the entire reason for the rise of HYDRA. Using Mack to betray Daisy. And worst of all, making Ward a good guy. Darkhold's influence or not, every decision she's made has been evil, when they didn't have to be. |
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Post by bigvanray on Apr 19, 2017 13:25:02 GMT
Good intentions led to where they so often do.
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Post by koos on Apr 19, 2017 14:58:39 GMT
You can't blame her. It was just circumstances that made her evil. As a matter of fact, no one is a hero or evil. Just the wrong step out of bed makes one evil and with the right step you become a hero. That's the lesson we learned in this episode. Can't blame her? Look at her decisions. Bringing in Fitz's father specifically to manipulate him. Bringing in Tripp, who Daisy always blamed herself for his death. (Notice Tripp's appearance coincides with Daisy's interrogation.) Making Jemma dead, the love of Fitz's life. Bringing down the building even though she knew Mace, Jemma and Coulson were inside, and actually killing Mace. Slitting Radcliffe's throat, then taking away anything of importance to him in the framework. Making May think she was the entire reason for the rise of HYDRA. Using Mack to betray Daisy. And worst of all, making Ward a good guy. Darkhold's influence or not, every decision she's made has been evil, when they didn't have to be. I was sarcastic. They are trying to make us believe that no-one is good or evil or heroic. It is just up to chance to what you will become. Not who you are. Not that I buy that. |
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Post by haxemon on Apr 19, 2017 17:44:27 GMT
I was sarcastic. They are trying to make us believe that no-one is good or evil or heroic. It is just up to chance to what you will become. Not who you are. Not that I buy that. I think they're sort of setting up the opposite in fact. i.e. that one of the flaws with AIDA's framework is the lack of understanding a person's character. Ward seems good and altruistic - almost how Skye used to picture him, Coulson was meek and towing the line - something he's never been IRL, Fitz is of course the most extreme example. I think the character will come through in the end that will sort of be the "lesson" - that AIDA overlooked that in her planning. |
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Post by geekxx on Apr 19, 2017 18:22:43 GMT
I'm going to have to admit, that I really thought Daisy's line at the end was really cheesy.
I'm sure it's true, but, man.
Otherwise, it was a great ending.
I wonder if she will be Quake or something else?
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Post by geekxx on Apr 19, 2017 18:45:14 GMT
I'm still upset that Mace was killed!
He did based on what he hoped to do.
He always felt guilty about the Vienna incident and now he can make amends but paid a price.
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