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Post by ayanami on May 22, 2018 23:12:19 GMT
Sooo... does that mean reality might shatter in the MCU, allowing the X-Men universe to be integrated? Hhhmmm...
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Post by haxemon on May 23, 2018 12:39:54 GMT
I suspect they'll do something similar to what they did in the comics - i.e. some sort of "merger". In the comics they sort of cherry-picked some characters from the "Ultimate" universe and other threads and had them all in one universe. Hence you have Old Man Logan running around with the 616 Logan etc.
Not sure how I feel about it but I do trust the powers that be to do this "right". Seems likely we'll get more films of GOTG, Black Panther, Ant-Man etc. as well as getting the FF and X-Men characters merged in.
I am NOT a fan of "well there are multiple realities/universes/timelines" etc. like DC has been doing to keep TV and film separate (sort of). I know it's a lot of work but I hope they truly allow the MCU to be all one big universe.
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Post by Black Widow on May 23, 2018 13:34:45 GMT
An interesting video and possible plot of Avengers 4:
!!!POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOR THE FILM. WATCH WITH CAUTION!!!
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Post by aquaangel on May 23, 2018 15:55:56 GMT
One video I watched on speculation for the new movie made me raise my eyebrow. They were talking about Tony's grey hair in the leaked photos. They said this means a lot of time has passed (they thought perhaps ten years) since he didn't have grey hair in the last movie. Um, no it doesn't! Tony is of the age that he could have grey hair naturally (in Infinity War). It is completely believable that he colors it. Come on, it's Tony. Perhaps he just stopped coloring it in the new movie. I'm not saying there won't be a time jump. All I'm saying is that using Tony's hair color to argue that there is a time jump, that is a very weak argument. It can be explained as I just demonstrated.
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Post by ayanami on May 23, 2018 16:50:31 GMT
One video I watched on speculation for the new movie made me raise my eyebrow. They were talking about Tony's grey hair in the leaked photos. They said this means a lot of time has passed (they thought perhaps ten years) since he didn't have grey hair in the last movie. Um, no it doesn't! Tony is of the age that he could have grey hair naturally (in Infinity War). It is completely believable that he colors it. Come on, it's Tony. Perhaps he just stopped coloring it in the new movie. I'm not saying there won't be a time jump. All I'm saying is that using Tony's hair color to argue that there is a time jump, that is a very weak argument. It can be explained as I just demonstrated. Actually, I think a considerable time jump is a pretty solid guess if a character suddenly sports noticeably greyed hair. It's just one year between the movies releases, so it's not like RDJ would have changes so much between shots. Plus, a movie is all about visual cues. I suppose noticeably more grey in Tony's hair could also stem form increased stress after his losses in IW, as well as a lack of interest in keeping up appearances by stopping to dye his hair, but I think that would be a weird way of visualising either of those developments. And even if either of that is part of the "problem", a time skip is still necessary, because if Tony merely stopped using hair colour, his hair would still have to grow out for that to become apparent. So time jump it is, question is just, how far? As a matter of fact, I've seen the theory that the drastic visual changes to some of main characters in IW, like Cap's beard of Widow's blonde hair, were done in part so that in the upcoming time travel shenanigans their younger versions would be even more easily distinguishable. |
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Post by aquaangel on May 23, 2018 22:34:43 GMT
I think ten years is a bit much for that guy to guess just based on Tony's grey hair. Why that much? If there is a time jump, I don't think it will be but one or two years, surely no more than five. I'd absolutely hate it to be more than two, personally. I don't actually like the idea of one at all (well maybe at the end of the movie). I want it to pick up right after IW ends. We didn't get to see a lot of the character's reactions to the disappearances aside from Tony/Peter and Rocket/Groot . Everyone else was just like a WTH kind of reaction, but that was it. I want it to open right there and show more emotional reactions... Especially Steve for Bucky. Now, if it starts there, shows a bit of what I want to see and then does a "x number of years later" type of thing, okay, I'd be good with that. |
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Post by ayanami on May 23, 2018 22:39:29 GMT
I think ten years is a bit much for that guy to guess just based on Tony's grey hair. Why that much? If there is a time jump, I don't think it will be but one or two years, surely no more than five. I'd absolutely hate it to be more than two, personally. I don't actually like the idea of one at all (well maybe at the end of the movie). I want it to pick up right after IW ends. We didn't get to see a lot of the character's reactions to the disappearances aside from Tony/Peter and Rocket/Groot . Everyone else was just like a WTH kind of reaction, but that was it. I want it to open right there and show more emotional reactions... Especially Steve for Bucky. Yeah, I can certainly agree on that part. I would be a total shame if we don't get to see some of the direct fallout of the end of IW. However, there's no reason why Avengers 4 couldn't start with a few minutes picking up right after IW, and then the time jump forward to a couple of years later, to show how much everything goes to sh*t with all those people gone. |
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Post by aquaangel on May 23, 2018 22:54:25 GMT
I think ten years is a bit much for that guy to guess just based on Tony's grey hair. Why that much? If there is a time jump, I don't think it will be but one or two years, surely no more than five. I'd absolutely hate it to be more than two, personally. I don't actually like the idea of one at all (well maybe at the end of the movie). I want it to pick up right after IW ends. We didn't get to see a lot of the character's reactions to the disappearances aside from Tony/Peter and Rocket/Groot . Everyone else was just like a WTH kind of reaction, but that was it. I want it to open right there and show more emotional reactions... Especially Steve for Bucky. Yeah, I can certainly agree on that part. I would be a total shame if we don't get to see some of the direct fallout of the end of IW. However, there's no reason why Avengers 4 couldn't start with a few minutes picking up right after IW, and then the time jump forward to a couple of years later, to show how much everything goes to sh*t with all those people gone. I edited my last post to add this same thing probably at the same time you replied lol. Oh, I also heard a theory I didn't like (and I'm not sure if you will either). This theory stated that they go to another reality to try to get the stones (before Thanos) to make their own gauntlet, but Loki overhears some of their plans and informs Thanos (that's the part I didn't like), which causes him to go after the stones earlier. I didn't like this one because I liked that Loki was kind of being heroic in IW and I think it showed how much he's grown as a character. He called himself Odinson after all. I don't want them to do a flip-flop on his character even if it's a past/alternate version. I liked his development in Ragnarok and IW. I still love the whole "we're not doing get help" thing in Ragnarok lol. The year long wait is going to be hard. There's going to be more and more theories as time goes by. They will likely get wilder as they go too lol. I don't know if I buy the "good guys make their own gauntlet" theory or not. I think people are basing this theory mostly on the fact that IW showed the mold for the gauntlet. I'm not sure if that had sigificance or not. |
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Post by Hari Seldon on Jun 22, 2018 2:15:28 GMT
Yeah, I can certainly agree on that part. I would be a total shame if we don't get to see some of the direct fallout of the end of IW. However, there's no reason why Avengers 4 couldn't start with a few minutes picking up right after IW, and then the time jump forward to a couple of years later, to show how much everything goes to sh*t with all those people gone. I edited my last post to add this same thing probably at the same time you replied lol. Oh, I also heard a theory I didn't like (and I'm not sure if you will either). This theory stated that they go to another reality to try to get the stones (before Thanos) to make their own gauntlet, but Loki overhears some of their plans and informs Thanos (that's the part I didn't like), which causes him to go after the stones earlier. I didn't like this one because I liked that Loki was kind of being heroic in IW and I think it showed how much he's grown as a character. He called himself Odinson after all. I don't want them to do a flip-flop on his character even if it's a past/alternate version. I liked his development in Ragnarok and IW. I still love the whole "we're not doing get help" thing in Ragnarok lol. The year long wait is going to be hard. There's going to be more and more theories as time goes by. They will likely get wilder as they go too lol. I don't know if I buy the "good guys make their own gauntlet" theory or not. I think people are basing this theory mostly on the fact that IW showed the mold for the gauntlet. I'm not sure if that had sigificance or not. Definitely overthinking it. They just have to go out and gather up all of the Dragonballs.  |
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Post by aquaangel on Jun 22, 2018 18:26:33 GMT
I'm starting to get a bit annoyed with the Russo brothers (and their lies-or what has to be a lie). Now they're supposedly trying to say that those who disappeared are permanently dead and any further movies featuring g them (ie sequels) will be pre IW. That's gotta be a load of dino poo. In the Doctor Strange movie, the ancient one mentioned viewing the future, but not being able to see past her own death. That means that Doc wouldn't have been able to see past his death to know that his plan was "the only way" to ultimately defeat Thanos. If the snap permanently killed him, he wouldn't be able to see past the point of the snap. He clearly did see past the point of the snap or he wouldn't have known it was the only way to win. So, if the brothers can't say anything true, they just shouldn't say anything at all. We fans do not like being lied to.
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I'll be spending next weekend with some family I like and trying to avoid any remotely controversial conversations with others that I spend the rest of the year avoiding 