Season 5 Rant Thread (through 5x10)

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Season 5 Rant Thread (through 5x10) Feb 4, 2018 2:02:53 GMT FreeKresge likes this

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Post by beren44 on Feb 4, 2018 2:02:53 GMT

Rather than further hijack ayanami's thread about being worried about May (which I am, also), I figured this topic needed its own thread. Especially after watching 5x10. I was so hoping for more out of the episode. The promo was a dirty trick as far as I am concerned. Very little plot was devoted to the teaser. Instead, we got more of the same.

I'll start by quoting some of my own answer to her question, and add from there.

Since you asked so nicely,

... and first off, I never said I 'hated' the current plot. Actually I don't. What follows is my honest opinion about what is going on, and I am sure there will be lots of disagreement...Hey, its my opinion!

It really isn't the plot itself that is bothering me. There are several things about this season that I am not pleased with.

I feel the writing of s5 has been a good bit of 'filler' or 'stretch-out-the story'.

Breaking this down in more detail, lets look at the new characters:

Enoch. Undoubtedly, the winner and surprise of the season. The best of the writing has gone to his character.

Virgil. The guy with a diary who knew what was up. Interesting character that got killed off inside of one episode.

Grill. What was the point of him? A big chunk of time spent on the metrics, and sending Mack on a rough-em-up assignment, and zapping the team just for kicks. Then he gets killed off too.

Deke. Poorly acted comic relief, who has not really served much of a purpose at all. Makes me miss Hunter all that much more. Maybe his parents will come into play, but that possibility seems to be fading away at this point. All that work-up, just for a reveal that there were people on the surface? Filler and more filler.

A large part of an episode devoted to Jemma helping the young girl who was appointed to go through terrigenesis.
Unless more is to be revealed, so far that just served to introduce the fact that Kasius was 'breeding' inhumans for a gladiator garage sale.

Tess. What to say about her? A lot of time spent, just to kill her off, and bring her back to life for no real valid reason other than to lead to Yoyo finding the loop version of herself.

All the bidders at the auction. Two entire episodes spent on this sideline story plot.

Kasius's brother. Again, what is the point. He gets brought into the story, then killed off. All just to emphasize the family aspect and daddy's disappointment in Kasius? Why the hell is Kasius willing to die to prove he has family honor also? Dumb plot.

Sinara. IMO the most interesting and enigmatic of all the newbies. I think most of us were hoping she would be the one to overthrow Kasius. Nope, she gets killed off too, a real missed opportunity for a potentially great character.

Kasius. I just don't get it at all. I am so sick of listening to his over-long melodramatic speeches. I will be curious if someone monitors how much screen time he has gotten this season. I swear, the actor must have been providing sexual favors to the producers, to have that drag on for so long. Totally glad to see him go. Shoulda happened 5 episodes ago.

Flint. Again, a character with major focus for at least 3 episodes, only to be set up to be the one to put the monolith back together. And irritating on top of that. He gets powers for a day, and starts getting all bossy about his abilities. Now suddenly Mack and Yoyo are ready to adopt him? Lame.

Voss. Yet another throw-away character that served not a whole lot of purpose. Yes he along with Deke's parents was the tie-in to Robin, I know. Its just all drug out too much.

And now to the regulars.

Jemma spent HOW many episodes as a gold plated zombie? One of the best actors on the show, forced to pan-face her part forever, it seems.

Fitz (undoubtedly due to availability) has had little screen time as well. Great actor as well, that we have seen too little of this season.

Coulson and May both seem to be 'off' somehow, not seeming anything like themselves, no matter what mode they are in. Let's hope Ming's real world injury heals completely and soon. Her character has had some really strange, hard to read expressions this season, nonetheless. And Coulson..well, caseyrook AKA Mechelle has covered his actions pretty thoroughly already, so I won't expound on that.

Mack and Yoyo haven't done much to impress either. Other than his grumpiness seems to be wearing off on her.

Daisy is the only one of the team that seems to keep developing, character-wise. I have really enjoyed watching both the character and the actress this season. Its been the highlight so far.

In short, this could have been a fairly interesting story, if it had been done more cohesively, in 4 or maybe 5 episodes, without all the red herrings and filler. I still hold out some hope that at least some of it will tie in and make better sense later on.

The sets have been way, way sub-par, looking a lot like the cheap sets of Inhumans. I am really ready for an outdoor, sunlight, real world scene. It is overdue.

Seems that the CGI of space, and a lot of 'hang-wire' editing, has been the bulk of what they have budgeted so far. (you know, the weightless fight scenes and such).

Speaking of fights, I have noticed a considerable downturn in their quality of directing, shooting and editing as well. Its slipping. Not all bad, mind you, there are a couple of great ones, but a lot is not up to the standards they have set. And a couple that are downright comical. Look at Voss trying to swing at Daisy. Looks like a 3rd grade schoolgirl trying to fight.

Look forward to everyone's rebuttals and support of my thoughts.
Rant over for now

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Season 5 Rant Thread (through 5x10) Feb 4, 2018 9:54:35 GMT via mobile

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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Feb 4, 2018 9:54:35 GMT

If it wasn't 3:37am I might have replied point by point, but it is so I will make a few comments that stand out.

Deke: To me, Deke isn't comic relief. And that's because I don't find him to be funny. Just a guy attempting humor while living a horrible life and also someone I swing wildly from liking to disliking.

May: I too have picked up on the changes in *May* (not Coulson) and I attribute them to her experience in the Framework.

I am not going into Coulson right now... ...That's a sore subject...

Grill: I liked him. Sure he was a mean asshole, but I found him to be quite interesting because he is the one Authority figure in the history of AoS that took no BS from the team and could reign them in, something not even their own organization could do. Granted, he had control of their Metrics, but still, it's amazing they never managed to free themselves of those to begin with. And think of the times when he shocked them: only when they were breaking rules. He never actually did it for fun (without reason) except that 1 time he did it to only Mack. Also, I liked that Grill was the kind of person who would respect you once he earned your respect. Hence Tess and Flint.

The Brothers Kasius: I see them as what the writers of "Inhumans" strived for with Maximus and Black Bolt. I did find some of that stuff boring but it was necessary to mold Kasius's character with him.

That's all I can say for now...

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Season 5 Rant Thread (through 5x10) Feb 4, 2018 17:10:24 GMT

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Post by beren44 on Feb 4, 2018 17:10:24 GMT

Feb 4, 2018 9:54:35 GMT caseyrook AKA Mechelle said:

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Deke: To me, Deke isn't comic relief. And that's because I don't find him to be funny. Just a guy attempting humor while living a horrible life and also someone I swing wildly from liking to disliking.
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Grill: ... the times when he shocked them: only when they were breaking rules.
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The Brothers Kasius: I see them as what the writers of "Inhumans" strived for with Maximus and Black Bolt. I did find some of that stuff boring but it was necessary to mold Kasius's character with him.

1. That's a fair description of the character. Actually, I guess Enoch fits the title 'comic relief' better. Still, Deke has a fair share of humorous lines, and for the most part the actor just never sold me with them. I kept seeing the actor, not the character. A few of the lines are great, though, without a doubt.

2. I disagree wholeheartedly. Re-watch the first 3 or 4 episodes and see if you still feel the same.

3.You are close to the mark. They, as well as the set [Kasius's lair, and the fight arena] had all the cheap hallmarks of 'Inhumans'. I really think that if Inhumans had done well, we would see a closer tie-in in 5B. Hopefully, the PTB got the drift of how badly that show stank, and had time to steer the rest of the season a different direction.

Footnote: I'll add the lady purchaser who refused to dine with Kasius in e3 was a total waste of story time, as well.
And speaking of the rest of the set, it seems like every other scene is in that one elevator. The budget cuts really show.

Last Edit: Feb 4, 2018 17:13:00 GMT by beren44

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Season 5 Rant Thread (through 5x10) Feb 4, 2018 17:52:33 GMT via mobile

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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Feb 4, 2018 17:52:33 GMT

Feb 4, 2018 17:10:24 GMT beren44 said:

Feb 4, 2018 9:54:35 GMT caseyrook AKA Mechelle said:

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Deke: To me, Deke isn't comic relief. And that's because I don't find him to be funny. Just a guy attempting humor while living a horrible life and also someone I swing wildly from liking to disliking.
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Grill: ... the times when he shocked them: only when they were breaking rules.
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The Brothers Kasius: I see them as what the writers of "Inhumans" strived for with Maximus and Black Bolt. I did find some of that stuff boring but it was necessary to mold Kasius's character with him.

1. That's a fair description of the character. Actually, I guess Enoch fits the title 'comic relief' better. Still, Deke has a fair share of humorous lines, and for the most part the actor just never sold me with them. I kept seeing the actor, not the character. A few of the lines are great, though, without a doubt.

2. I disagree wholeheartedly. Re-watch the first 3 or 4 episodes and see if you still feel the same.

3.You are close to the mark. They, as well as the set [Kasius's lair, and the fight arena] had all the cheap hallmarks of 'Inhumans'. I really think that if Inhumans had done well, we would see a closer tie-in in 5B. Hopefully, the PTB got the drift of how badly that show stank, and had time to steer the rest of the season a different direction.

Footnote: I'll add the lady purchaser who refused to dine with Kasius in e3 was a total waste of story time, as well.
And speaking of the rest of the set, it seems like every other scene is in that one elevator. The budget cuts really show.

And every corridor we see (which has been like 50 different ones by now) is one of the 4 corridors that SHIELD has used since the Playground set was built (the 4 hallways that surround the lab and Common Room area).

They're just redressing the same standing set they've used for years.

I'm not letting that bother me. It's how they are saving money and the show can't risk being too expensive if they also want the good special FX.

As for Grill-every time he shocked them, they could have avoided it if they actually did their work and stopped talking to each other.

And yes, Grill was a terrible person, he left Coulson, Mack, and Elena there to be killed instead of him during the Renewal. I'm just saying I found him to be endearing as the asshole that he was, which something I can't say for that other asshole Grant Ward.

I'm not saying he should have shocked them, I'm just saying that he wasn't exactly shocking them for the hell of it, although I do not feel the same way about Zev shocking Elena. Those times were just him being an asshole.

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Season 5 Rant Thread (through 5x10) Feb 4, 2018 18:21:48 GMT

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Post by beren44 on Feb 4, 2018 18:21:48 GMT

fair arguments, caseyrook AKA Mechelle . I understand the re-vamping of the set. I just miss a few scenes of the real world..or even a good old earthly street scene, even if it is shot on a studio lot. In season 1, the shots of Malta[Ian], Austin[Skye's Rising Tide boyfriend], and other cities were actually real.

That's why this is a rant thread...it pisses me off that they cut the budget and can't afford that now. And I've never been one to judge any show at all, on the basis of their special effects quality or frequency of use. Given the choice, I would probably prefer using them sparingly, that's not the main reason I tune in to a show. Even the cheesy phasers on ST TOS were fine by me. But AoS has spoiled me! They do such a great job.

Which leads to, for anyone still reading, the point that this is a rant thread. There's still plenty I like about the season as well, and I will try to bring up some of the stuff I like in the episode threads, when I compose my thoughts.

Peace out, all

Last Edit: Feb 4, 2018 19:06:25 GMT by beren44

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Season 5 Rant Thread (through 5x10) Feb 4, 2018 18:26:08 GMT via mobile

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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Feb 4, 2018 18:26:08 GMT

Feb 4, 2018 18:21:48 GMT beren44 said:

fair arguments, caseyrook AKA Mechelle. I understand the re-vamping of the set. I just miss a few scenes of the real world..or even a good old earthly street scene, even if it is shot on a studio lot. In season 1, the shots of Malta[Ian], Austin[Skye's Rising Tide boyfriend], and other cities were actually real.

That's why this is a rant thread...it pisses me off that they cut the budget and can't afford that now. And I've never been one to judge any show at all, on the basis of their special effects quality or frequency of use. Given the choice, I would probably prefer using them sparingly, that's not the main reason I tune in to a show. Even the cheesy phasers on ST TOS were fine by me. But AoS has spoiled me! They do such a great job.

Which leads to, for anyone still reading, the point that this is a rant thread. There's still plenty I like about the season as well, and I will try to bring up some of the stuff I like as well, in the episode threads, when I compose my thoughts.

Peace out, all

I understand, Beren.

After all, I use my specific brand of rant threads as therapy.

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Season 5 Rant Thread (through 5x10) Feb 4, 2018 19:05:33 GMT

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Post by Hari Seldon on Feb 4, 2018 19:05:33 GMT

Feb 4, 2018 17:52:33 GMT caseyrook AKA Mechelle said:

Feb 4, 2018 17:10:24 GMT beren44 said:

1. That's a fair description of the character. Actually, I guess Enoch fits the title 'comic relief' better. Still, Deke has a fair share of humorous lines, and for the most part the actor just never sold me with them. I kept seeing the actor, not the character. A few of the lines are great, though, without a doubt.

2. I disagree wholeheartedly. Re-watch the first 3 or 4 episodes and see if you still feel the same.

3.You are close to the mark. They, as well as the set [Kasius's lair, and the fight arena] had all the cheap hallmarks of 'Inhumans'. I really think that if Inhumans had done well, we would see a closer tie-in in 5B. Hopefully, the PTB got the drift of how badly that show stank, and had time to steer the rest of the season a different direction.

Footnote: I'll add the lady purchaser who refused to dine with Kasius in e3 was a total waste of story time, as well.
And speaking of the rest of the set, it seems like every other scene is in that one elevator. The budget cuts really show.

And every corridor we see (which has been like 50 different ones by now) is one of the 4 corridors that SHIELD has used since the Playground set was built (the 4 hallways that surround the lab and Common Room area).

They're just redressing the same standing set they've used for years.

I'm not letting that bother me. It's how they are saving money and the show can't risk being too expensive if they also want the good special FX.

As for Grill-every time he shocked them, they could have avoided it if they actually did their work and stopped talking to each other.

And yes, Grill was a terrible person, he left Coulson, Mack, and Elena there to be killed instead of him during the Renewal. I'm just saying I found him to be endearing as the asshole that he was, which something I can't say for that other asshole Grant Ward.

I'm not saying he should have shocked them, I'm just saying that he wasn't exactly shocking them for the hell of it, although I do not feel the same way about Zev shocking Elena. Those times were just him being an asshole.

Can't resist, not going to try:

fair arguments, caseyrook AKA Mechelle. I understand the re-vamping of the set. I just miss a few scenes of the real world..or even a good old earthly street scene, even if it is shot on a studio lot. In season 1, the shots of Malta[Ian], Austin[Skye's Rising Tide boyfriend], and other cities were actually real.

Except apart from Fitz and Hunter's masterful jailbreak, when would these scenes be used? They're stuck underground most of the time and if the surface were nice enough to use an outdoor set, it would change the plot majorly.

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Season 5 Rant Thread (through 5x10) Feb 4, 2018 19:13:28 GMT

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Post by beren44 on Feb 4, 2018 19:13:28 GMT

Feb 4, 2018 19:05:33 GMT Hari Seldon said:

Feb 4, 2018 17:52:33 GMT caseyrook AKA Mechelle said:

Except apart from Fitz and Hunter's masterful jailbreak, when would these scenes be used? They're stuck underground most of the time and if the surface were nice enough to use an outdoor set, it would change the plot majorly.

My point exactly! I am so tired of them being where they are, it has gone on far too long. And Kasius has gotten way, way too much screen time. The more I review the season, the less I like it. I'm pretty sure if this had been the first season, I would not have stuck around for more than 3 or 4 episodes, if that.

The plot for the most part has been a bunch of disjointed side stories. The space story could have been told in 5 episodes, tops.

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Season 5 Rant Thread (through 5x10) Feb 4, 2018 19:23:17 GMT

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Post by Hari Seldon on Feb 4, 2018 19:23:17 GMT

Feb 4, 2018 19:13:28 GMT beren44 said:

Feb 4, 2018 19:05:33 GMT Hari Seldon said:

Except apart from Fitz and Hunter's masterful jailbreak, when would these scenes be used? They're stuck underground most of the time and if the surface were nice enough to use an outdoor set, it would change the plot majorly.

My point exactly! I am so tired of them being where they are, it has gone on far too long. And Kasius has gotten way, way too much screen time. The more I review the season, the less I like it. I'm pretty sure if this had been the first season, I would not have stuck around for more than 3 or 4 episodes, if that.

The plot for the most part has been a bunch of disjointed side stories. The space story could have been told in 5 episodes, tops.

I'm not so sure the writers had it all planned out ahead. I don't think I'm the first to mention it, but if Cassius had 'seer' Elena all along, then he already knew Jemma and Daisy weren't the only time travelers and he had no reason whatsoever to use the mind reader Inhuman to test them and even less reason to pretend he didn't know they were lying.

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Season 5 Rant Thread (through 5x10) Feb 4, 2018 19:32:38 GMT

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Post by koos on Feb 4, 2018 19:32:38 GMT

Feb 4, 2018 19:23:17 GMT Hari Seldon said:

Feb 4, 2018 19:13:28 GMT beren44 said:

My point exactly! I am so tired of them being where they are, it has gone on far too long. And Kasius has gotten way, way too much screen time. The more I review the season, the less I like it. I'm pretty sure if this had been the first season, I would not have stuck around for more than 3 or 4 episodes, if that.

The plot for the most part has been a bunch of disjointed side stories. The space story could have been told in 5 episodes, tops.

I'm not so sure the writers had it all planned out ahead. I don't think I'm the first to mention it, but if Cassius had 'seer' Elena all along, then he already knew Jemma and Daisy weren't the only time travelers and he had no reason whatsoever to use the mind reader Inhuman to test them and even less reason to pretend he didn't know they were lying.

Kasius first needed to know he can use Elena to extract valuable info out of her. Only in this ep. he finally realized fully what had been going on.

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Season 5 Rant Thread (through 5x10) Feb 4, 2018 19:49:20 GMT polgara likes this

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Post by Jemma Simmons on Feb 4, 2018 19:49:20 GMT

Feb 4, 2018 19:23:17 GMT Hari Seldon said:

Feb 4, 2018 19:13:28 GMT beren44 said:

My point exactly! I am so tired of them being where they are, it has gone on far too long. And Kasius has gotten way, way too much screen time. The more I review the season, the less I like it. I'm pretty sure if this had been the first season, I would not have stuck around for more than 3 or 4 episodes, if that.

The plot for the most part has been a bunch of disjointed side stories. The space story could have been told in 5 episodes, tops.

I'm not so sure the writers had it all planned out ahead. I don't think I'm the first to mention it, but if Cassius had 'seer' Elena all along, then he already knew Jemma and Daisy weren't the only time travelers and he had no reason whatsoever to use the mind reader Inhuman to test them and even less reason to pretend he didn't know they were lying.

Also, didn't Future Elena tell Current Elena that this time, she tried to tell them as little as possible? Perhaps that was something she was able to manage to keep from him this time around the loop.

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Season 5 Rant Thread (through 5x10) Feb 4, 2018 22:08:59 GMT Jemma Simmons likes this

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Post by Hari Seldon on Feb 4, 2018 22:08:59 GMT

Feb 4, 2018 19:49:20 GMT Jemma Simmons said:

Feb 4, 2018 19:23:17 GMT Hari Seldon said:

I'm not so sure the writers had it all planned out ahead. I don't think I'm the first to mention it, but if Cassius had 'seer' Elena all along, then he already knew Jemma and Daisy weren't the only time travelers and he had no reason whatsoever to use the mind reader Inhuman to test them and even less reason to pretend he didn't know they were lying.

Also, didn't Future Elena tell Current Elena that this time, she tried to tell them as little as possible? Perhaps that was something she was able to manage to keep from him this time around the loop.

Still, if he was using her as his seer, he had to know she'd been to 2091 and she was neither Daisy nor Jemma, therefore Daisy and Jemma were lying, he had to know that, and he didn't have a motive to play along.

And this being my first post on the new color scheme seems like a good opportunity to say it is just peachy for me.

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Season 5 Rant Thread (through 5x10) Feb 4, 2018 22:54:18 GMT polgara likes this

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Post by backroadjunkie on Feb 4, 2018 22:54:18 GMT

Feb 4, 2018 19:23:17 GMT Hari Seldon said:

Feb 4, 2018 19:13:28 GMT beren44 said:

My point exactly! I am so tired of them being where they are, it has gone on far too long. And Kasius has gotten way, way too much screen time. The more I review the season, the less I like it. I'm pretty sure if this had been the first season, I would not have stuck around for more than 3 or 4 episodes, if that.

The plot for the most part has been a bunch of disjointed side stories. The space story could have been told in 5 episodes, tops.

I'm not so sure the writers had it all planned out ahead. I don't think I'm the first to mention it, but if Cassius had 'seer' Elena all along, then he already knew Jemma and Daisy weren't the only time travelers and he had no reason whatsoever to use the mind reader Inhuman to test them and even less reason to pretend he didn't know they were lying.

You may be condemning the writers too soon.

From a couple of hints dropped, the aliens invading the Earth (learned from Voss) is Kasius' father (learned from Kasius). We have yet to see how the invasion plays out. We also have Hale, which seemingly knows the team must die, but now we don't know if she wants the team because they foil the invasion, or because the world gets destroyed. We may still see interaction between the forces that want Earth (again, learned from Kasius) that ties into what we've seen in 2091.

About Yo-Yo. In ep9 (at 29:25) where Mack and Yo-Yo first confront Kasius, as soon as the Kree turn the corner, Kasius looks surprised and says, "Yo-Yo Rodriguez? How peculiar." I don't think Kasius knew she was part of the prophecy until he saw her with Mack. If that's the case, then he didn't know to utilize his "seer" until after that moment. And at the end of ep9 is when we learn he has a seer.

It's also (probably, now that he knows the team goes back to the past) where he gets the idea to kill the team so his father succeeds in taking over the whole Earth, instead of just a little piece of it. (However, if fails, because the Team is destined to go back to 2018.)

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Season 5 Rant Thread (through 5x10) Feb 4, 2018 22:55:56 GMT Jemma Simmons likes this

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Post by backroadjunkie on Feb 4, 2018 22:55:56 GMT

Feb 4, 2018 22:08:59 GMT Hari Seldon said:

And this being my first post on the new color scheme seems like a good opportunity to say it is just peachy for me.

Well, I'll chime in.

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Season 5 Rant Thread (through 5x10) Feb 4, 2018 23:10:39 GMT

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Post by koos on Feb 4, 2018 23:10:39 GMT

Feb 4, 2018 22:54:18 GMT backroadjunkie said:

Feb 4, 2018 19:23:17 GMT Hari Seldon said:

I'm not so sure the writers had it all planned out ahead. I don't think I'm the first to mention it, but if Cassius had 'seer' Elena all along, then he already knew Jemma and Daisy weren't the only time travelers and he had no reason whatsoever to use the mind reader Inhuman to test them and even less reason to pretend he didn't know they were lying.

You may be condemning the writers too soon.

From a couple of hints dropped, the aliens invading the Earth (learned from Voss) is Kasius' father (learned from Kasius).

True, but even if Kasius had been than there is still no reason for him to assume that OldElena was from the future. He only had seen her and nobody else from the team in the past. Because OldElena was the only one fighting Kasius in the past. He just starts to realize that the OldElena had been from the future when he saw the younger Elena suddenly show up two eps ago (for the first time that he saw YoungerElena). And that's when he decided to use her as his own Seer. (And why only Yo yo could be the Seer).